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Old 07-08-2009, 05:14 PM
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I think the different curing methods are all just less or more efficient ways of taking the bitter unwanted chemicals out of the smokable matter. all these different ways do it.

The water cure is probably better at doing this, i mean think about it guys, all we want is the psychoactive parts of the plant. So the more non psychoactive stuff thats taken out the better the end result right?

So any process where the plant loses non psychoactive mass is a good process.

In our world everything likes to be equal..so if you have a high concentration of something, it will try to spread out and make itself equal with the surrounding areas concentration. So when we seal our weed in a glass mason jar, and chuck it somewhere for a day the air surrounding the leaves is pretty clean and contains no chlorophyll to begin with. Then imagine chlorophyll is pressure... the air around the buds is at negative pressure, as there is no chlorophyll and the buds themselves are basically high pressure pockets. This forces the chlorophyll from the bud into the air till the concentration is equal in the air and the bud. At this point the process stops. Now its a day later, and we open the lid and the bad air is swapped with fresh air, creating the negative pressure again.

The thing that kills us here is, in order for something to go from the bud to the air it must be soluble in air. chlorophyll is. A lot of the stuff we want to get rid of isnt.

THC is not soluble in water as the other guy said, and pretty much everything else is. So when we put the buds in water the same thing happens, but instead of only chlorophyll leeching out of the leaves, everything thats water soluble does...chlorophyll, nutes, sugars, hell most parts of the plant are...

Fermenting i can only imagine, as the guy you quoted said is a microbial action...Im not sure if thc is broken down as part of that action. But im fairly sure this method is just a clever natural way of mixing water and air cures. The water evaporates from the heat, the vapor passes through plant matter, collecting unsavoury particles on the way then leaves the pile.

The sun method probably uses oxidisation. Oxygen is the most destructive chemical on the planet. without oxygen we would have no rust no fire no tarnishing, no breakdown of matter really. The problem is thc isnt invincible, and oxidisation kills thc just as much as it kills everything else. I wouldnt use this method if you have a choice.

Personally i use the glass jar method. I do this because as anyone who has done it correctly can tell you, the weed gets a very sweet smell from this method. In truth it always has this sweet smell, but the smell of chlorophyll masks it.

I know ill get flamed for this...fine...but do remember shack my man, the key thing we want to do is "remove bad tasting and smelling compounds, leaving ALL of the psychoactive materials and good tasting stuff."

I dont search the forums to see what other people say then repeat it, i sit down and think about it myself. Im fairly competent in biology and chemistry and the processes involved in curing weed work the same as any other plant..tobacco in this case. Im sure there would be a better way of curing mj than using the method for tobacco but i dont have th quantity fweed needed to try out the ideas i have. Ill try a few small buds and see what happens.

FYI hash is pure thc, hash is all the good parts of the plant and none of the bad (if its pure). We dont want hash, we want plant matter but we want it to smell and taste sweet not bitter.

im stoned as and i feel like ive typed for days lol...


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Its always a good idea to water cure some nugs for smoking while your waiting on your bud to cure properly ..
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I have never watercured my buds but I can say if you air cure for at least 3 months in a jar you will be amazed at the taste and quality of the smoke. Its just very hard to keep smoke around that long if you are a pot head like myself or have a woman that smokes as much as mine does!
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dam i never knew this shit, i tripped out when i saw the bud submerged in water
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sounds like water curing might cause mold
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Water curing won't cause mold if you follow the directions and let them hang dry for 48 hours. I did a water cure one time and at the end the buds were very light on flavor, but they did have a pretty good punch to them in the "high" department. It's worth a try if you have enough buds to run a test on
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i chop trim and hang, then whats ever not smoked, goes in jars and is smoked while i cure it. What respectable stoner could look at a jar of dank and drool for over three months? WTF lol
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What I do is dry for a week then in the glass jars burp them for a week then leave for long cure at least a month. But if the buds when dry dont taste to bad and get my high i will smoke a bit. I rarely do that coz I usually always got something to smoke.

I had a look at the water cure process and will try it with around 4gs just to get a few early buds to smoke. I only got one to two weels flowering my rhino jack so not long to go yet.. You lose a lot of weight in the buds when water curing instead of jar cure.

Growing when you havent got any bud to smoke is hard when u look at smell at ur ladies and you got nothing, its hard.


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Then I looked at the bud weight % difference between the two methods.

100 grams wet = 25 grams air dried
100 grams wet = 15 grams water cured & dehydrated

The air dried weighs 10 grams more or 40% more. This is too big of a percentage difference for me. This is what I love about being a newbie grower, I'm floating through the learning curve. My game plan now is to water cure enough buds to last me while I'm air drying & curing the majority of the pot because it's sure nice to have smokable buds once the trics are ready

I had 74 grams wet and got 11 grams dried. I would of got 18 grams air dried and that's 7 grams more or 39%.

Yes, the water cure method works & it works great! Fast, clean & simple with a great buzz but it's too large of a weight percentage difference between the two method.

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