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Default average amount of red hairs at harvest?
so i have been looking at my trichs and waiting for them to change more amber and i was just wondering what the average percentage of red hairs you have at harvest. Are the hairs usually 100% red for optimal harvest time or are some still white. My last harvest I couldn't wait for amber trichs just cloudy and had about 80- 90% red hairs.
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Old 04-18-2009, 10:45 PM
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Well it could depend on what strain you have, on my unknown strain all the hairs stayed bright white and my fire crip plant was covered in red hairs.
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so i have been looking at my trichs and waiting for them to change more amber and i was just wondering what the average percentage of red hairs you have at harvest. Are the hairs usually 100% red for optimal harvest time or are some still white. My last harvest I couldn't wait for amber trichs just cloudy and had about 80- 90% red hairs.
Its not the color but the way they appear,they all should be dead and curled up into the calyx.Don't get caught up in colors,its all stages of life not colors you want to harvest it after its completed its growing cycle,but common signs are,the small leaf will be horned up on the edges,the calyxs"the spot where the pistols come out" will be swollen and the plant will appear dead.let it go as long as possible you want it to flush its system and rid itself of nasties and leave you with good taste,don't worry about the bud degrading it takes weeks for that to happen and you will never get close to that point,wait till you see the golden glow, you will know what i mean when you see it check these pictures below.the first one is still very alive the second you can tell has completed its life cycle

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yea i think I know what your talking about with the glow..is it bad to make them flower too long...i really do like a couch lock retarded feeling buzz...
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yea i think I know what your talking about with the glow..is it bad to make them flower too long...i really do like a couch lock retarded feeling buzz...
let them go as long as you want, you will only get stoned,you do want that right Just trust me and let them go until there is no cloudy trichomes left,or very few if that,or let it go until there is none period and you will be smoking FIRE,probably even one hitter quiter but only if you let it finish,and give it plenty of fresh water to flush it real good,chop it one branch at a time so you dont take to much off at one time or so you can sample it after it dries if it smokes like you want finish harvesting if you want to let it go more then thats fine to,or harvest all at once but just let it finsih what ever you do you wont regret it
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mannn im so impatient, i hate that! I guess ill let them go a lil longer for more amber. How much longer after cloudy till amber...im so impatient. I heard that amber means the thc has degraded and it will no be as potient. I heard 10% amber or the first sign of amber for highest concentration of thc. Is the high better when there 100% amber?
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yes as it depends on the strain and the high youre trying to achieve..
sativa dominant plants are highin thc but low in cannabinoids..Indicas tend to be lower in thc but higher levels of cannabinoids..

If you harvest at first signs of amber you will be somewhere close to peak thc level..
the more amber trichs the lower the thc and higher levels of cbd,cbn etc which will give you that couchlock effect

Is the high better when 100% amber?? couchlock isnt for everyone, my wife prefers smokin sativas at 100% cloudy, for the high thc head high... i prefer indicas at 50/50% cloudy/amber for a lil head buzz and some pain killing relief/sleep..
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as frosty put it, it all depends.

I'm personally of the opinion that 90% of the growers on this site (And probably in general) harvest too early. By letting the plants go a little longer you're ensuring that the've plumped as much as they're going to.
Despite popular opinion to the contrary(and don't fool yourself, the jury is still out on this one) I hold the belief that a week or two is not going to make the drastic difference in the cannabinoid profile that people are on about. And even if it does, recent studies have shown ;contrary to what was previously believed, that THC itself (And its predecessor THC-A) are quite guilty of causing the confusion and drowsyness associated with burnout and other cannabinoids (our friend CBN, and a handful of others) to be the catylist (along with THC) to being 'high' rather than 'baked'
Regardless, whether or not theres any substance to the aforementioned study, its easy to get the high you want.
If you want a soaring 'cerebral' high: Get yourself a tropical sativa that contains a high level of THC-V and grow it until it is ripe.
If you want the narcotic couchlock stone, grow a rugged indica until its ripe.
Notice a pattern of growing it until its ripe? Its a really good rule to live by.
This is a game of patience, i learned early on if you're gonna cut corners (or days) you're better off not doing it at all.
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as frosty put it, it all depends.

I'm personally of the opinion that 90% of the growers on this site (And probably in general) harvest too early. By letting the plants go a little longer you're ensuring that the've plumped as much as they're going to.
Despite popular opinion to the contrary(and don't fool yourself, the jury is still out on this one) I hold the belief that a week or two is not going to make the drastic difference in the cannabinoid profile that people are on about. And even if it does, recent studies have shown ;contrary to what was previously believed, that THC itself (And its predecessor THC-A) are quite guilty of causing the confusion and drowsyness associated with burnout and other cannabinoids (our friend CBN, and a handful of others) to be the catylist (along with THC) to being 'high' rather than 'baked'
Regardless, whether or not theres any substance to the aforementioned study, its easy to get the high you want.
If you want a soaring 'cerebral' high: Get yourself a tropical sativa that contains a high level of THC-V and grow it until it is ripe.
If you want the narcotic couchlock stone, grow a rugged indica until its ripe.
Notice a pattern of growing it until its ripe? Its a really good rule to live by.
This is a game of patience, i learned early on if you're gonna cut corners (or days) you're better off not doing it at all.
Do things right and you will thank yourself. and so will your kind buds.
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So very true,people harvest there plants with cloudy trichomes thinking they will get a sativa type high,its all BS,they are smoking immature resin glands, and immature resin glands give you what feels like a head high but really is a buzz and will wear off quite quick,letting it mature will not hurt anything,and no just becuase the resin glands are amber does not mean they are degraded,thc does not degrade until all resing glands are amber and have converted to cbd's which is weeks after they turn amber,all this crap about harvest early or you will ruin your buds is what i said CRAP,and its steering so many growers into harvesting early and ruining there crops,do your self a favor and give it some patience,everyone knows the feeling of wanting to chop your plants,but thats part of growing,if it comes down to it chop some lower small branches of to test sample it and let the rest go for a few weeks after that so you can at least get good smoke and let them finish
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yes as it depends on the strain and the high youre trying to achieve..
sativa dominant plants are highin thc but low in cannabinoids..Indicas tend to be lower in thc but higher levels of cannabinoids..

If you harvest at first signs of amber you will be somewhere close to peak thc level..
the more amber trichs the lower the thc and higher levels of cbd,cbn etc which will give you that couchlock effect

Is the high better when 100% amber?? couchlock isnt for everyone, my wife prefers smokin sativas at 100% cloudy, for the high thc head high... i prefer indicas at 50/50% cloudy/amber for a lil head buzz and some pain killing relief/sleep..
Maybe not so much better at 100% amber but more stoney.peak potency is when about 60-70 percent of the trichomes are amber and the rest cloudy thats right around peak potency.50/50 amber and milky is fine also but any less then that will lose potency,the high is based on the strain like you said,harvesting ealry will have no effect on the high it will only give and immature resin glands,which give a buzz like feeling causing people to think they are getting a head high but really are not,until you have smoked pure sativa or pretty close to it you can tell a head high from a buzz like feeling,letting it get amber will not degrade it either its a myth,it takes weeks to get anyware near what people are saying its all hear say "maturity=quality" i think thats gonna be my new quote
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