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Old 02-15-2009, 07:10 AM
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Hey all,we have 2 ladies that are only @ 6 weeks flower and yesterday we were looking at the trichomes with our radio shack micro and we have around 60-70% cloudy and a few with slight amber.We know their mostly indica even though its bagseed,just by looking at them.We had a lil' problem with our ph being low a couple weeks ago.we think it locked out nutes and caused the yellow spotty leaves at the top of the one plant.We added gardeners lime with water and had only given them water the 2 weeks before that.Do you think were ok to flush today and maybe again mid week?We were thinkin we would flush for a week and harvest the bigger plant(janzilla we call her)and keep flushing the other(mary) and then harvest her in 2 weeks.do you think we will get all the nutes out ok? Heres some pics from yesterday.
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Old 02-15-2009, 07:21 AM
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great job, if the trics are getting amber it is time.

what lightingnutes did you use?
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Old 02-15-2009, 07:24 AM
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While it is possible for a plant to finish early in 6 weeks it's highly unlikely unless you as the grower do evverything perfect & the plant experiences no difficulties.

Another thing is that Trichomes can be misleading,i found this out after my 1st few grows,plants normally exibit 2 seperate explosions of bud growth,the first starts when budding is first started & usually continues heavily into the 5th or 6th week,then new pistil/calyx developement slows to a crawl or comes to a complete stop & pistils/hairs will start turning red,the trichomes can & will start to ripen at this time where they will start turning cloudy & honey color,at this point alot of people are mislead by looking at the trichome color.

Every Indica strain ive ever grown will exibit a 2nd growth spurt after the time where new pistil/calyx development stops,the new pistils & calyx's will completely cover the exisisting trichomes with new hairs & new trichomes,this is when i start to examine trichomes for maturity,if you chop based on the first set of mature trichomes your likely missing the second new growth explosion & alot of bud weight.

Have your buds exibited a 2nd explosion of new bud growth after you watched them slow to a crawl in bud production ?

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Old 02-15-2009, 07:25 AM
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Hey all,we have 2 ladies that are only @ 6 weeks flower and yesterday we were looking at the trichomes with our radio shack micro and we have around 60-70% cloudy and a few with slight amber.We know their mostly indica even though its bagseed,just by looking at them.We had a lil' problem with our ph being low a couple weeks ago.we think it locked out nutes and caused the yellow spotty leaves at the top of the one plant.We added gardeners lime with water and had only given them water the 2 weeks before that.Do you think were ok to flush today and maybe again mid week?We were thinkin we would flush for a week and harvest the bigger plant(janzilla we call her)and keep flushing the other(mary) and then harvest her in 2 weeks.do you think we will get all the nutes out ok? Heres some pics from yesterday.
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what nutes did you use chem or organic??
if i were you i would flush for 2 weeks then harvst them both at 8 but thats just my opinion im still learning.
also just a question did you use mollases?cause i used it on my first lowryder grow and the buds doubled in size!!

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wow a bagseed grow and ready to start flush at 6 weeks congrats. and looks very tastey.
any bagseeds ive done seem to take alot longer and seems like forever for the trichs to start to go amber.
as far as when to flush its up to you at what kind of high you want. dont chop to early cause the last 2 weeks of it getting ripe will really pack on the weight and the frost.
i dont think i have ever heard of anyone chopping to late.
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Old 02-15-2009, 07:55 AM
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If I knew how I would respond to each of you individually.But Im not real good with this computer stuff! These girls are from real good bagseed.we think northern lights.Grown in f.f soil,with cfl for lighting.The nutes we used are 1/4 cup big bloom,2 tsp tiger bloom every other watering.We have about 400 watts of cfl lighting above and for side lighting.I'll enclose a pic of lighting setup. Panhead I agree with you,my girl who is my roomate,and the one who initiated this grow is getting ancy and I told her it seems kinda early to me.Although Im a newbie 2 !! As far as the trichomes it kinda depends where you look on the plant as far as how much clear and how much cloudy.And just like you said they had 1 burst of bud growth and then slowed to nothing and I think now they are gonna fatten up even more.I would of liked to of fed them more but we were afraid it would be too much.do you think we should try to feed them,maybe just not as much? This site and most of the people on here are awesome!!!Thanks for your help guys REALLY couple pics of lighting
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Ur doing good man as far as I can see, if I were you, just from what I'd see...I'd let them go for another 1-2 weeks. I know you may see that said a lot in threads around but they really fill in the last couple of weeks. Just flush with water over the next week or so and you'll see the difference that week makes. Just my .02 though
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Old 02-15-2009, 08:16 AM
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If I knew how I would respond to each of you individually.But Im not real good with this computer stuff! These girls are from real good bagseed.we think northern lights.Grown in f.f soil,with cfl for lighting.The nutes we used are 1/4 cup big bloom,2 tsp tiger bloom every other watering.We have about 400 watts of cfl lighting above and for side lighting.I'll enclose a pic of lighting setup. Panhead I agree with you,my girl who is my roomate,and the one who initiated this grow is getting ancy and I told her it seems kinda early to me.Although Im a newbie 2 !! As far as the trichomes it kinda depends where you look on the plant as far as how much clear and how much cloudy.And just like you said they had 1 burst of bud growth and then slowed to nothing and I think now they are gonna fatten up even more.I would of liked to of fed them more but we were afraid it would be too much.do you think we should try to feed them,maybe just not as much? This site and most of the people on here are awesome!!!Thanks for your help guys REALLY couple pics of lighting
Allright,good info.

Dig this,dont get caught up in the whole business of flushing thinking its going to make any real meaningfull taste difference because it is not,others will surely dissagree because somehow down the line flushing weed has been repeated over & over again as fact, now most people believe its needed or will effect taste,think about this for a minute,it would be next to impossible to flush weed grown outdoors being the amount of soil its grown in,some of the best weed ive ever smoked in my life was outdoor grown in the earth,flushing has not ever been proven to do one single thing to make the final product taste/burn better.

Ive researched the living shit out of flushing weed plants & after trying to find out the origin of the pratice all the early info traces back to fertilizer companies (Think advanced nutrients) who just so happen to sell specialty products designed for flushing,coincidence i dont think so,ive yet to find one credible study backing up any of the claims regarding flushing being a needed activity in growing weed.

With that being said & now that we know your buds are on their first growth period you should continue feeding them,i never let my plants starve & i continue to feed them right up until the watering before the last watering they recieve,you should try to retain as many of the big sun leaves as possible,the more sun leaves the plant has means more light energy being converted into bud growth,this is why i continue to feed my plants because the feedings allow the sun leaves to stay green & healthy damm near until it's time to harvest.

If your still fairly new at growing advanced & unproven techniques like flushing should be avoided,instead focus all your efforts on learning how to keep the plants in the best health possible,learn how to avoid problems like you just experienced with the ph issues,then after you master the techniques needed to grow healthy plants all the way through is the time to start experimenting with techniques like flushing.

When your new to growing its far better to stick to the basics & keep everything as simple as possible,that way you've cut out any unnessacary issues that could effect bud production & yeild,plus taking it one step at a time alows you to see & taste any changes that may occur from using techniques like flushing.
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Thanks bubbuh!! I would of liked to of given them more nutes but if they dont need it or it will hurt more than help!? Ya know? I also would of liked hps lights for flowering.But we rent here and we have the power maxed out in that closet already.The idiot that wired this house has an upstairs bedroom,the kitchen and the garage all on one breaker???? We are moving into our own house in mid april and plan to get set-up real NICE there.My roomate is all about cfl only,which I have been real impressed with what theyve done.but from my learning(mostly on RIU)I think the yeild would be higher with hps for flowering.When we get setup in the new house we are gonna do a cfl vs hps wtih the same strain and that will tell the tale! when we get there I am gonna do a journal thats cfl vs hps for flowering!!!
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Very well put about outdoors!! I never really thought about it that way.In my own mind I cant help but think we havent fed them enough.they really only fed them like twice during flowering up until now.How much do you think we should give them?? Thanks man!
 

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