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    Quote Originally Posted by fadetoblack72 View Post
    Hmm. I didn't notice a second growth spurt on my plants but I am sure they are near harvest. 90% of the fan leaves have turned yellow, the trichromes are mostly cloudy with a amberish one popping up here and there. I can actually see the amber color shooting up through the tricrome with my $13 60-100X Radio-Shack pocket microscope. Is it possible that I just didn't pay enough attention and missed the second "explosion" or should it still be to come? The hairs are mostly turned and they definetly have some fragrance. The strain is Sour diesel and I am at day 48. The day count seems early to me but they look like they are almost ready.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Where in the hell am I? View Post
    Absofreakinlutely! It does not APPEAR that ya had yer 2nd burst, but ya CAN miss it
    Should I just let the plant continue to eat itself? Will it run out of nutrients before this second explosion takes place(if it hasn't already happened)? Is there a way to tell if it has happened? How long after the second explosion until harvest?

    Anyone know how many days it takes for sour diesel to harvest?

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    Brah, if yer trich look like ya say, 80%amber keeps me comatose

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    Where the hell... Thanks for the info. Just for the record when they say day count are they talking about from clone to harvest or from flowering to harvest?

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    Flower to harvest. From clone shud only be an extra 2 weeks, n-e way

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    Thanks...I was just wondering because 48 days or so seemed like a short time from flower to harvest. They sure do look close to me though. I guess the trics will tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fadetoblack72 View Post
    Should I just let the plant continue to eat itself? Will it run out of nutrients before this second explosion takes place(if it hasn't already happened)? Is there a way to tell if it has happened? How long after the second explosion until harvest?

    Anyone know how many days it takes for sour diesel to harvest?
    There are no set finish times for any strain,if one grower finished in 72 days there are way too many variables in other growers rooms to use his day count,too many things change from grow room to grow room to use anybody elses finish time,even with the same strain.

    When they talk day count they are talking from when pistils first start to form on the plants,the day count should be started roughly 2 weeks from the 1st day the plants went to 12/12,not allways but roughly.

    Its highly doubtfull you missed the growth burst,before the growth burst the pistils will start to brown out & there will be very little new white pistil growth,if you have not had any red/brown pistils followed by a heavy burst of new white pistils covering them over then you have not gone through the 2nd growth burst yet,i can see from the pics the buds have not gone that far yet.

    Again,some strains do not get red/brown pistils until after they are ready to harvest but the strain your growing is not one of them,i'd bet you have a full 30 days to go before harvest.

    As for letting the plant eat itself no you should not allow that to continue,put everything you've read about flushing the plants right in the toilet & flush it,keep feeding the plants,i like to give mine a few shots of nitrogen rich fertilizer durring heavy bud,i also foliar feed them one time about half way through bud cycle with a light mixture of fertilizer water in a spray bottle,this allows the sun leaves to live much longer & continue the process of turning light energy into plant/bud building energy,you can spray the entire plant down wih your veg nutes as long as the mix is about 10%,then make sure you have a fan blowing directly on the buds after any visable moisture is gone,this protects against any inner excess moisture within the buds & the possibility of bud rott.

    You can experiment with advanced & unproven techniques like flushing on future grows,on your 1st grow just keep the plants as healthy as possible by feeding them properly all the way through the grow right up until the last watering you give them,the nonsense commonly spewed about tasting fertilizer is exactly that,nonsense,whats tasted is "clorophyll" from buds that are not properly dried,fertilizer is made up of elements,these things do not leave the plant,once elements like boron/iron/copper/magneese ect are in the plant no amount of flushing will remove them,keep feeding the plant & your plant will be much healthier.

    On your first few grows its best to forget most of what you read on these sites,lots of unproven myths like flushing & ultra expensive fertilizers are touted as fact,the best thing you can do is to keep everything as simple as possible,watch the plant,if its showing clear signs that it needs fertilizer then feed it,if the buds are not ready to harvest by trichomes after the second growth burst then wait,day count will only play a role after you are used to the strain from several grows,same thing with fertilizing,on later grows you can custon tailor the feeding from experience but the first few grows its best to keep the plant as healthy as possible through the entire grow by feeding it.

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    some very good points panhead. you may also want to keep a journal for future grows so if something works you can do it again. each strain will react different to different things.

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    Very very nice Panhead! I'd give you more rep, but it won't let me yet lol I've never waited till that second spurt, cause I tried to harvest before amber's set in heavy to keep it headie. I think for my next grow Ill let a few plants hit the 2nd spurt, and compare to see the differences in my new room with my strains. I'll be doing a DWC perpetual grow, so time is key, but if its going to yeild wayyy more to wait an extra month I might have to
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    PANHEAD=AWESOME ADVICE
    I am not new at this but I also have not seen a 2nd spurt of growth, I have never let mine go past 9 weeks. Can I ask I have some bubblicious right now that are at 9 weeks all hairs are brown and the trichs are 50/50 amber cloudy, but the buds are not as large as I have seen, when do you normally see the 2nd growth? Is it hard to miss? I think I am going to wait and see if this happens and run it another few weeks.

    Also if you foliar feed durring flower 1 Tbs of Kelp per Gallon of water will not ever burn your plants and they will stay green through out the grow, I mist mine everyday in the morning and I have never had mold or any bad effects.
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