HOLY F*$K 120x salvia - Page 5

euthanatos93420 · #41 05-04-2008, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by thegigglepimp

When making extract you have the pure Salvinorum A which you then add to leaf. So you place 10 grams worth of extract onto one gram of leaf to make 10x extract.

But there must be a point where you extract so much Salvinorum A that it weighs a gram in itself... Im not even sure it would be a good idea to smoke that. If it was infact 120x then i imagine there cant have been much leaf in it...

Anyway i just harvested some Salvia and purchased some leaves to add to my extraction. I have 113 grams to be precise and plan to extract Salvinorum A from 112 grams of it and add it to one, there for making a "112X" extract. I'll have to get back to you and compare the trip man sounds like you had an intense one. I've left this world entirely on 40x alone..

You reach ~%80 purity at 100x. %100@~125x

The difference is truly negligable. Your math is a little off too. If you extract 112 grams worth and at it to the last gram, you'll have 113x. Standardized extractions are difficult to do and require a better set-up than non-standardized extractions. If you just make a 50x or so NS extractions....you should be more than good to go. At a certain point extraction becomes meaningless and redundant. In it's pure leaf form you could sit and smoke the shit all day and your lungs would say FUCK YOU before you got even close to high. At 20x you can easily get the dosage you're looking for without going overboard. at 40x & 50x You have to be fairly tolerant of the substance and still be good at measuring miniscule doses. Anything stronger is simply retarded.

Stealing · #42 05-04-2008, 11:43 PM

I thought the max extract you could get of leaf stuff was 30x
and the 100% pure stuff was the 50x liquid extract..?
That's what I got from my salvia research anyway..

Salvia is one hell of an insane drug.. I did one hit of 20x and had a more intense trip then I woulda imagined. I thought I was getting pulled into the wall and into some alternate dimension by some shadow hands, and thought I was tacked to the wall and I was completely flat like a poster. Crazy shit man.

euthanatos93420 · #43 05-05-2008, 09:24 AM

Pure Sal-A is crystalline in form at RT.

Ratio of Sal-A to other matter in Avg leaf is something like 125:1 So the max purity comes oput to be at about 125x.

If he did smoke 122x I'm not sure why didnt just advertize it as pure (Or almost) Sal-A instead of 120x. Still.

Bamm Bamm · #44 05-18-2008, 10:08 PM

probably wasn't 120x it was probably a cool advertising ply=) But hey I didn't pay for it my buddy did=)

euthanatos93420 · #45 05-19-2008, 09:21 AM

Well after doing a little research, 120x is about as close to pure Salvia as a GOOD kitchen Chemist can do. It's the cream of the crop though. It's what's extracted with the first COLD acetone wash in the extraction process. The quantity of which is further reduced by ISO wash. This is the purest product. Everything else extracted from the same batch of leaves will be much less pure.

'120x' is at the least, if not complete bullshit, a misrepresentation of the product. Moreover, if one possessed such a pure product, one is ridiculously idiotic to use it. The reason being that dosing is inaccurate at best. The purpose in using such a high potency is not to get 'higher' but to trip with less smoke inhalation. The following procedure (In short, use google to find more reference on this procedure), shows a means of using near pure Sal-A in a manner effective in achieving a near smokeless product with a fair and practical margin of accuracy.

Dissovle near pure Sal-A to maximum solubility in room temperature acetone. Use syringe to put drops onto a piece of CORN FIBER (MAIZE) cigarette paper (Can absorb more than regular cigarette papers). Let the paper dry, repeat till desired potency is achieved. If one should choose to pursue this endeavor, one should be much more familiar with the process than I have detailed here and should do INDEPENDANT RESEARCH.

thegigglepimp · #46 05-19-2008, 10:05 AM

Euthanatos: Great research mate +rep I cant even begin to imagine how youd go about smoking pure salv A other than the cigarette paper method mentioned. It would have to be one tiny crumb in a pipe...

intensive · #47 05-19-2008, 10:18 AM

damn, i just realized that i must have a hard head, or at least for salvia and other pyscho's like shrooms. when i smoked mine,i started laughin real hard and couldnt move, couldnt really make since outa everything, got real itchy and hot. but def. didnt change my perception of anything around me, just kinda slowed me down.

it takes 2-3 grams of shrooms for me to even see spinning tribal neon's floating on the walls

i knew i musta been immune or somthing, it didnt seem as great as everybody elses expirences

cream8 · #48 05-20-2008, 10:44 AM

take one hit in a bong and hold it in as long as you can. have a friend load the bong and fill up the chamber with smoke while you hold your breath. exhale then immdiatly clear the chamber in the waiting bong and hold that in...then .......blast into the volid of space time

Weed Guy · #49 05-20-2008, 11:52 AM

To all those saying 30X is the highest amount purchaseable, you obviously havent visited EDIT: Salvia Divinorum - 60X Flavoured Extracts - Online Shop

Mushroom Mesiah · #50 05-20-2008, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by gabriel420

I had some 20x... I broke through once, my first and only time doing this shit. I was alone in my room and packed like a .7 into my 20" bong, and took it all in at once. My last "sane" memory was letting out a huge cloud of smoke and leaning out my window feelinglike I was gonna puke and glancing at my cell phone clock... then came the experience.
I remember looking out at like this really desolate alienish landscape, like orangish clay with stuntedtrees n shit. I had the feeling of looking out of a body, but it wasn't my human body, and I felt like there were other beings somewhere close by watching but I couldn't see them. That part wasn't that bad. Then I had this feeling of being physically pulled across the landscape, faster and faster. The next part was the wierdest, hardest to desribe part, and the part that shook me to the core. I was being pulled out from underneath a bed, but it was like a hallway with the same thing repeating down it forever, squares of me being pulled out. I felt like there was a wire or string stretched tight across my open mouth, like at the corners of my lips, and it was an unexplainably unsettling feeling. I remember thinking that this was reality, and how the FUCK could I be expected to exist in a reality like this, I wanted to end it but I had no sense of my body, no clue of how to kill myself. I thought I would live in this forver, and justwanted a hug from my mother.
Then I was suddenly back to "reality" in my own room. I was on my floor holding on REALLy tightly to my bong. Somehow during the trip I'd taken of my hoodie and emptied the water from my bong out the window. I RAN out of my room and out of my house, feeling like I was the only person left alive on earth. I finally went back inside after like 5 minutes, but for a good 20 minutes after I was too shaky to even smoke anypot, plus I had this idea in my brain that i'd be launched back into the experience if I smoked.

scary, scary, scary shit.

Thats a nice description of a good Salvia trip.