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Old 05-06-2008, 01:22 PM
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great experiment!! thanks alot. what do u mean by waffers. ive cut my cakes in half before and it seemed to help a little. looks like im gonna order some gulf coast and try out some rye. thanks for the info
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hey when do u harvest the shrooms
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Don't cut the cakes in half, it doesn't do shit.

The way to get the most out of cakes, is to grow them, and then dunk them.

Why is everyone doing cakes though? It's SO much easier casing.

And to the kid whom mentioned growing and selling these, in small quantities, it really isn't worth it.

You'll grow enough to eat some and cover a little bit of your costs, especially with crappy cakes.

If you're seriously looking at doing this to sell, look into bulk methods, but I wouldn't even recommend that... these aren't something easily grown for profits, mainly because yields are really low for the most part. Not to mention it's a 1-2month process.

Also, the one thing that will fuck you hard core if you're really trying to grow a lot, is that you can only pressure cook so many jars in a day (8qt PC will probably do 3-4 quart jars). You can maybe use that pressure cooker twice in a day, if you time it correctly. Because you have to let the thing cool down for 6 hours and it takes about 1-2 hours of pressure cooking, you've got a minimum of 14hrs of waiting for 6-8 jars.

Than you've gotta think of your losses due to contams (everyone gets them some time), costs to assemble, etc.

Just not really a good cash crop in my opinion.
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Don't cut the cakes in half, it doesn't do shit.

The way to get the most out of cakes, is to grow them, and then dunk them.

Why is everyone doing cakes though? It's SO much easier casing.

And to the kid whom mentioned growing and selling these, in small quantities, it really isn't worth it.

You'll grow enough to eat some and cover a little bit of your costs, especially with crappy cakes.

If you're seriously looking at doing this to sell, look into bulk methods, but I wouldn't even recommend that... these aren't something easily grown for profits, mainly because yields are really low for the most part. Not to mention it's a 1-2month process.

Also, the one thing that will fuck you hard core if you're really trying to grow a lot, is that you can only pressure cook so many jars in a day (8qt PC will probably do 3-4 quart jars). You can maybe use that pressure cooker twice in a day, if you time it correctly. Because you have to let the thing cool down for 6 hours and it takes about 1-2 hours of pressure cooking, you've got a minimum of 14hrs of waiting for 6-8 jars.

Than you've gotta think of your losses due to contams (everyone gets them some time), costs to assemble, etc.

Just not really a good cash crop in my opinion.
I wouldn't consider it a cash crop, but if you were to do
10 pint jars which could potentially yield 10 grams (dry)
per jar 1st flush, you have 100 grams do a second flush that same
week to add 12 grams to the 100 and you have a QP.

Sell 8ths for 25 and your making around $700 for 112 grams of
shrooms.

Now i could see if you talking about thousands of dollars.
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10g dry per 1/2pint cake?

Those are some significantly high figures to be pulling on cakes... I'd believe 7g dry per cake, and that's still a high yield for a 1/2 pint cake.


7g dry from 10 cakes, 70g, so you've got about 2.5oz's. Now you're going to want to trip, and probably trip with a friend...


I don't know, I just see greed in the OP or whomever it was that said they can't wait to sell them. You can definitely make more just working a job, unless you have a ton of space, equipment, and time to make bulk mushrooms.

But cakes, don't really expect to see that much money... you'll be hard pressed to get more than a gram or two per cake, especially your first time.
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10g dry per 1/2pint cake?

Those are some significantly high figures to be pulling on cakes... I'd believe 7g dry per cake, and that's still a high yield for a 1/2 pint cake.


7g dry from 10 cakes, 70g, so you've got about 2.5oz's. Now you're going to want to trip, and probably trip with a friend...


I don't know, I just see greed in the OP or whomever it was that said they can't wait to sell them. You can definitely make more just working a job, unless you have a ton of space, equipment, and time to make bulk mushrooms.

But cakes, don't really expect to see that much money... you'll be hard pressed to get more than a gram or two per cake, especially your first time.
No no no not half pints.

Whole pints.

10 grams (dry) is a good yield from a whole pint jar.

10 grams (dry) off HALF pints seem impossible though.

7 grams (dry) is doable though off half pints.

Yea greed is another factor, if someone charges 40 an eighth
then thats about $1400 a QP of shrooms, thats just cruel.
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Take your 1 pint cakes then cumble them up and use them to inoculate some casings.. Casings grow alot more shrooms...
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im going to try hawaiian , and alacabenzi .
heard they were both good.
gunna do the rye seed. ( for substrate) then crumble it up and use for a casing.
heard it yeild s alot more that way
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No no no not half pints.

Whole pints.

10 grams (dry) is a good yield from a whole pint jar.

10 grams (dry) off HALF pints seem impossible though.

7 grams (dry) is doable though off half pints.

Yea greed is another factor, if someone charges 40 an eighth
then thats about $1400 a QP of shrooms, thats just cruel.
DEFINITELY CRUEL!

1 pint cakes, never done 1 pint cakes or even seen anyone do them, so I wouldn't doubt 10g dry.

Rye seed needs to be shaken up every two days or so, you won't need to crumble it up than, you can just shake it out of the jar into your casing layers.
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Hello,

Soak your grains for 24 hours
Simmer your grains for 20-30 minutes or until 5% of the kernels have exploded(WBS only)
Drain your grains for 30 minutes
Load grains into your jars(jars prepared with Tyvek filter and polyfill)
Sterilize your grains in a Pressure Cooker(PC) for 60 minutes at 15psi
Once your PC has stopped venting steam=pressure at zero-open it up and remove the jars giving them a vigorous shake to redistribute the grains in the jars.
Allow for the jars to cool completely(overnight)
Innoculate with your favorite strain
Once colonised, spawn them to a bulk substrate such as manure or straw or both
Let colonise
Case with Coir
Let colonise
Fruit
Harvest!

Please stay away from any and all Amanita mushrooms! That is one of the deadliest families of mushrooms out there-"Destroying Angel". You can't cultivate them because they are in symbiosis with certain trees(meaning that they have to have a host[tree]in order to fruit).

Hope I was helpfull.


I have plenty of spores-maybe we can work something out?

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