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Old 05-04-2008, 11:23 PM
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hi i never done shrooms cus it cost alot in newengland and i dont trust ppl.i just ordered a syringe of PES Hawaiian for 10 dollars from SHROOM SPORES mushroom spores - Syringes $10.00 hope it will work.i was reading on how to make the mix for the innoculation,wit rye flower,vermitilate(sp?).is there any easy way to grow shrooms like put the mix in a 1 gal aquarium at the bottom with a heating pad under aquarium and inject spores in certain spots with sterilize soil on top?and a lid on top to create a slight humid eviroment, would that work?im new to shroomery.it will be the first time i try shrooms as well.

please help and give me advice,i do plan on collecting the spores from the final grow so i can save money.

i also got great info off this thread.
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Old 05-05-2008, 07:21 AM
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What you want to do is inuculate the jar's first because the mix has got to stay sterile that is the reason for the jars it keep every thing shut off from the outside world, so that bacteria doesn't take over... So make a couple jars then make a casing.. You will get mor yield with casing method or you can also try the WBS Bag's..
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Old 05-05-2008, 10:12 AM
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thanks,but do i really need a pressure cooker cus dont got one,cant i just put the jars ina inch of boiling water forr like 30min?ill innaculate in a couple good size jars then move to the aquarium.would i beable to slice the mix into wafers?so i could evenly distribute the cakes allover the aquarium.

and how long does shroom spores last in a syringe,hopefully theres some shelf life to them so i can get set up
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your syringe will last awhile and be fine.. just make sure to shake it daily so they dont get all clumped together.
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If you have a big pan make your substrate jars, then put them in the pan like a big crock pot and add water get the water to boiling then turn heat down so they stay boiling and boil for 90 minutes.. I would do 90 just to be safe... You have to add water to the pot cause it will slowly boil off...

When growing mushrooms the most important part is overlooked that being that you need a sterile enviroment.. So don't boil the water for 30 mins thats not enough also invest 80 bucks on ebay for a pressure cooker..
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What kind of mushrooms are the ones I get out of the cow shit in my back yard? They work, I just don't know what they're called.
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LOL all depends you would have to show a picture of them so some one could identify them..
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thanks guy,makes me excited to grow the shrooms.cant wait to cultivate and sell some.im already saving some jars,im goin to clean them out wit soap,and rubbing alcohol and then boil the jars and then fill the mix and boil it,then let it cool and inject 2cc per jar and sit them in a dark eviroment that is slightly warm.

the question is...can i mix the vermiculte wit diff grains like white rice and brown rice powder,rye powder,and other grains to make a good different mix?i was thinking that if u make a really good mix it will give a good advantage.


i also read that the stain i got was 3x more potent than regular strains so yay.guess when there ready to harvest,ill be really conservative.

thanks for all the help guys...really appreciate it.
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My experiment with 8 different strains is over. I will listing all the results Shortly.....
PLEASE TUNE IN...........

I noticed the otherday, that a few of my cakes are developing a white fuzzy mold (not mycelium) probibly cobbweb mold. It was only a matter of time, since they have been fruiting for quite some time.
Because a fruiting chamber isn't sterile or air tight, Is there a way to avoid this?

I crumpled up my contaminated cakes and spread them into an outdoor garden with wood chips and Manure. Who knows whats going to happen.

I'm sure that all the cakes will become contaminated now, I'm just salvaging any thing I can. The mushrooms that got the mold on them, stopped growing entirely. But, all the other cakes are producing quite well now. Once I see the mold, I pull the cake out of the chamber. Once it starts, it can't be stopped. I had about 64 cakes going, 6 got mold yesterday, 9 more today. All in all, I would say I have had a pretty suggsessful harvest. Since it was an experiment for me. I have been keeping track o how the different strains grew and which were most productive.

I am ending my testing and will be listing my results shortly... Tune in for more.........
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THE RESULTS ARE IN::::: I will rate them with a Score of 1 throught 10 and give the yields of each with BRF and Rye Flour. This experiment started with 8 jars of each strain (4 Brown Rice Flour and 4 Rye Flour)

B+, rated 6/10 - BRF Total Yield: 14g RYE Total Yeild 19g

Gulf Coast, Rated 10/10 BRF Total Yield 29g Rye total yield 38g

Amazon, Rated 9/10 BRF Total Yield 26g Rye total yield 37g

A Stain, Rated 4/10 BRF Total Yield 12g Rye total yield 22g

Pink buffalo, Rated 5/10 BRF Total Yield 21g Rye total yield 24g

south american, Rated 5/10 BRF Total Yield 22g Rye total yield 31g

Z stain, Rated 8/10 BRF Total Yield 27g Rye total yield 38g

lipa yai, Rated 1/10 BRF Total Yield 6g Rye total yield 10g (lost 3 jars to mold early)

A few words: Lipa Yai, stay away from this one. It's a pain to grow and became contaminated easily. It's yield was low, and the shrooms would feel really slimey when touched.

Gulf Coase, I loved it. It grew big meaty fruits, quite fast and every flush was just as big as the one before. I think It wasn't getting mold, I would make it to 6 flushes no problem. The fruiting chamber was filled with mushrooms and not many aborts.

Z strain and Amazon, I also liked them very much. I would recommend them to anyone.

Don't use Brown rice flour. It takes longer, gives you less growth and cost the same price as RYE. Plus, It sticks to the Vermiculite better.

I have noticed that the cakes I crumbled up, were fully conlonized, both inside and out. I think if you made waffers out of them they would have a better chance of producing bigger yields.

I am going to do sever tests on the casing method now. Any Specific strains you would like me to try???
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