A Mixture of the Inorganic and Organic Causes Powerful Entheogenic Results - Page 2

The ShAman · #11 03-17-2008, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SWAT Slash

ALSO, CCC (coricedin is not safe unless you extract the DXM) A simple method of extraction is just to crush the pills up very finely, then soak in water. Wait for the DXM to float to the bottom and use something like a turkey baster to remove the water from the top. Since DXM is only ~1% water soluble it wont mix with the water, but the chloropheniramine maleate (the bad stuff that will poison you) will spread throughout the water. So when you suck the water out, MOST (not all) of the CPM will be removed.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Zicam Severe Cough is pure DXM in 30mg tablets that melt on your tongue and taste pretty good. It's almost like they know what we want.

jackonthebox · #12 03-17-2008, 04:50 PM

I drank a bottle of cough syrup with dxm. ROBOTRIPPING!!! haha it freaked me out though at first. I drank it and went to a local hardcore punk show. about halfway through the show, I thought the stage was a huge gravitational force that at the time, I associated with a blackhole and I was standing against the back wall gripping it like I had spiderman powers and could grip the flat wall to keep myself from being sucked in. weird.

SWAT Slash · #13 03-17-2008, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The ShAman

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Zicam Severe Cough is pure DXM in 30mg tablets that melt on your tongue and taste pretty good. It's almost like they know what we want.

Haha, exactly what we want. Personally though, i go out to Walgreens a buy a bottle of their Cough Expectorant, use my extraction method, and end up with around 7200mg of nearly pure DXM. All for around $30. Its the most DXM per $, and it takes hardly any work to extract.

BTW, once you have removed the water during the extraction process i described, you dont have to wait for the DXM to dry, just mix it with some water (not the water you removed lol) and chug it. Its not actually that bad of a taste either.

cream8 · #14 03-18-2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The ShAman

A Mixture of the Inorganic and Organic Causes Powerful Entheogenic (Psychedelic) Results

(Please do not try this at home.)

The ShAman

I am of Cherokee (Aniyaya) ancestry and have been a practicing shaman for the past five years. Sometimes a shortage of certain things forces me to look elsewhere. As a result I have discovered one surprisingly potent combination that creates fantastic entheogenic results. One part of the combination can be bought legally just about everywhere. The over the counter cough medicine, dextromethorphan (DXM), found in products such as Robitussin DM, has a cousin known as levomethorphan that is also contained in trace amounts in the cough preparation. Levomethorphan is a Schedule II narcotic and is a cousin and byproduct of the production of DXM. [1] It is a semisenthetic morphine derivative, and is a very powerful hallucinogen [2]. Hallucinations from DXM require somewhat large amounts of the compound to be ingested, which ranges anywhere from 180 to 240 milligrams, and doesn't provoke the state of mind sought by most shamans unless marijuana is also used. In fact, DXM is an ingredient in some preparations of ecstasy. [1] The pharmacology of DXM is similar to phencyclidine (PCP). [2]
Any over the counter preparation that contains anything other than DXM and guafenisin should absolutely never be used. Poisoning from other ingredients is a leading cause of hospitalization and even death for those who attempt an altered state of mind.

When about three to four ounces of Robitussin DM or generic equivalent (10mg DXM per tsp.= 60mg of DXM per ounce) are ingested on an empty stomach and given about 30 minutes to start taking effect, the shaman must use marijuana with no other compounds, pills or alcohol in his or her system. The true entheogenic results will not take place without the use of marijuana. [For those who don't know, the word "entheogen" has replaced the now nearly defunct term "psychedelic" when referring to organic and inorganic substances that cause hallucinations.] The experience from this combination is very much like that of organic compounds. It can and probably will trigger hallucinations and spiritual experiences that are both bizarre and beautiful. It usually lasts about four to six hours. I have found the experiences to be not only beautiful, but spiritually revealing.
I do understand the danger involved in what I do. I don't encourage others, but if you do wish to use this combination, I suggest you do some research, and, if possible, the guidance of a shaman.
The re-ingestion of the cough preparation should not be attempted again for at least several days, as the compound is quite toxic. My personal rule is not to use the compound for it's entheogenic effects more than once a month. First time users of this method should be sure not to ingest any more than three ounces (180mg). Even experienced users of the compound should never exceed four ounces. Stomach discomfort usually takes place before the levomethorphan takes effect. That's normal, but can sometimes be avoided if a product containing only DXM is used. One such preparation on the market is called Delsym. That product should be avoided because it is a time-release preparation and can cause overdose and mental instability due to the long period of time it remains in the body (12 hours). One product that contains only DXM is called Zicam [Severe Cough], and is available without a prescription. One dose of Zicam contains 30mg of DXM. A single dose of 180-240 milligrams by an adult has always been shown to be safe among people I have witnessed using the compound. No one has died from the single use of 240mg or less of DXM. When used with marijuana, all have had, at minimum, hallucinations. Some have had visual and auditory hallucinations, and still some have had full-blown spiritual experiences. Unfortunately, the DEA is reviewing DXM and considering it as a possible controlled substance.

I do not take responsibility if someone uses this combination. Like all substances that alter consciousness, it can be dangerous, and the illicit overuse should certainly never be practiced by someone under the age of 18. The illicit use of DXM does increase blood pressure, so that can be a danger for people who suffer from high blood pressure and/or heart disease. Anyone taking antidepressants should never use DXM because of a life threatening condition known as serotonergic syndrome. [2] The occasional illicit use of DXM has not directly caused any deaths. Deaths that occurred were a result of the ingestion of much more than 240mg (400mg +) and constant, repeated use or using it in combinations with pills, other OTC medications and/or alcohol. I didn't pull the 240mg maximum dose out of my magic shaman's hat. That information came from a pharmacist. I admit it is a very powerful, possibly mind expanding, compound, but I suggest that you go ahead and do some research before you use it to embark on a journey. The responsibility is yours, the reader.

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The shAman

[1] http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/programs/forensicsci/microgram/journal_v3_num34/journal_v3_num34_pg4.html

[2] http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/drugs_concern/dextro_m/dextro_m.htm

hello shaman. i too am of cherokee descent and have over the past nine months began to learn about shamanism. i am not a shaman nor do i claim to be. in many shamanic cultures it is considered disrespect to even call yourself a shaman. it is believed that that ego can negate any strengths that shaman may have. i know you have been studying this for years and it almost feels as if i have been doing the same. i feel a great connection with the earth and i feel that this may be a serious calling in my future. i would ask you to please use caution when posting something of this nature on this public fourm. there are many youngsters who think they know everything and will go and try these things witch, in a way isnt a bad thing, however using entheogens to gain information or to have a spirtual experience may be a dangerous thing if not under the care of a shaman who is leading you through the ceremony or performing healing...again there is ALOT i dont know i, and in no way is this message ment to be in any way disrespectful. i wish you the best in the future

petejonson · #15 03-18-2008, 08:11 PM

whoever started this post is a clown ass dude. shaman my ass

tampicos · #16 03-19-2008, 01:36 AM

are you gonna start the band wagon of bashing someone you don't know? if you don't have something constructive to say, keep your mouth closed..it doesn't help your image. just like everybody doesn't smoke weed to get high(some people do it for medication not leisure) many people "trip" as a spiritual thing to communicate better with themselves or a higher being. some people view it almost as if not more intense than a religion because what you see can be very real and what you learn can stay with you for a long time.

porchmonkey4life · #17 03-19-2008, 07:27 AM

True that.

The ShAman · #18 03-19-2008, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by tampicos

are you gonna start the band wagon of bashing someone you don't know? if you don't have something constructive to say, keep your mouth closed..it doesn't help your image. just like everybody doesn't smoke weed to get high(some people do it for medication not leisure) many people "trip" as a spiritual thing to communicate better with themselves or a higher being. some people view it almost as if not more intense than a religion because what you see can be very real and what you learn can stay with you for a long time.

Very well said. There are some people who roam the net (and the world) with the intentions of doing nothing more than picking fights with or causing harm to other people. It's counterproductive, a waste of energy, time and, in some cases, even money and lives. It's sad, really. Also, there is the old aphorism: "Criticize what you don't understand".

petejonson · #19 03-19-2008, 01:26 PM

ya i think im king fucking ding a ling because im bashing this dude

porchmonkey4life · #20 03-19-2008, 01:34 PM

comrade dingleberry