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    Hi everyone, so I'm new to shrooms, never tried them. I'm hopefully successfully growing some now, they are in fruiting chamber = )

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    My brother was talking about putting shrooms in honey and the honey absorbs the good shit. He never had them that way before, but read about it in a magazine. Does anyone have any knowledge about this? How to do it, how long it takes, how do you dose it out?

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    never heard that the honey absorbs the psychoactive compounds, but I have used honey to preserve them.

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    Usually people use money just for the taste/preservation, but you could powder your mushrooms and boil them in honey to absorb the actives.

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    it is probably not a good idea to boil mushrooms if one wants to retain any of the effect.
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    Why not?
    You the melting point of psilocin and psilocybin are both >175C and honey boils at ~70C
    Not only that but they are in honey which will preserve there chemical compositions up to those temperatures.
    Your telling me you have never made mushroom tea before?
    Or psilly fruitpuch?

    Trust me, 30 minutes of boiling even at temps 100C wont effect the potency.
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    Thanks for the replies so far, much appreciated...

    So if I were to do it with the honey, even just to preserve them, would you dry them first or put them in fresh? Again, probably noob questions still a little ignorant on the mushroom front.

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    Prolly best to dry them first. Then use them in any applications that you are thinking of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by morfin56 View Post
    Why not?
    You the melting point of psilocin and psilocybin are both >175C and honey boils at ~70C
    Not only that but they are in honey which will preserve there chemical compositions up to those temperatures.
    Your telling me you have never made mushroom tea before?
    Or psilly fruitpuch?

    Trust me, 30 minutes of boiling even at temps 100C wont effect the potency.


    Well now, there is that - perhaps I am guilty of perpetuating a myth - I hate that.

    However, I DO know that you really don't want to put fresh mushrooms in honey - that is asking for anerobic bacteria to form on a rather basic substrate - then again if you really like botulism then go right ahead.
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    I've put dried mushies in honey to make eating them tastier. I have no idea if it helps preserve them because they never lasted very long.
    Most drugs can handle boiling for a short period. Even the opiates can take a brief swim in boiling water pretty well. You want to avoid it with esters but that's it. So if you did break a bond in psilocybin you'd be breaking the O-P bond and getting psilocin. And the phosphoric ester is a stronger bond than an acetyl ester. Although the phosphoric acid is a stronger acid and would start to catalyze the cleavage so the rate would get faster until it reached equilibrium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrEDuck View Post
    I've put dried mushies in honey to make eating them tastier. I have no idea if it helps preserve them because they never lasted very long.
    Most drugs can handle boiling for a short period. Even the opiates can take a brief swim in boiling water pretty well. You want to avoid it with esters but that's it. So if you did break a bond in psilocybin you'd be breaking the O-P bond and getting psilocin. And the phosphoric ester is a stronger bond than an acetyl ester. Although the phosphoric acid is a stronger acid and would start to catalyze the cleavage so the rate would get faster until it reached equilibrium.
    There goes the duck with his scientific analysis again. I hope that it answers your questions punk. Now just eat your damn shrooms already. Shhiiiitttt.
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