Well, apparently Im never going to find out about this alleged site. Too bad, I have been wanting to try 2-cb again for years now...took it with E a couple of years ago (young and stupid idiot mistake), so I'd really like to experience it all by itsself. somebody PM me if you find out please and thank you.

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i think i'm using weed as a fill-in, cuz mary always lets me hit it.....

A quick goggle search popped up that in the 90's it was popular to get them online and were even available up in till about 6 years ago.

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Preacherman, don't tell me, Heaven is under the earth. I know you don't know What life is really worth.

If you want a safe alternative that is exactly like 2ci then try these Devils - Hardcore, XXX, Fast and Fastious, Devils, Smileys, London UNderground the site says that it does not ship to the US but they do. I tried some a few years ago and i had some 2ci and the trip was almost exactly the same. They contain BZP and TFMPP.

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Ganjafarmer
http://www.rollitup.org/grow-journal...lood-grow.html

That website looks like it's selling some seriously BUNK SHIT. I'd rather take my chances buying some pills at a fucking rave and end up with speed instead of E than spend more money on that website, wait a few weeks, and still end up with some weak ass BUNK SHIT.

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i think i'm using weed as a fill-in, cuz mary always lets me hit it.....

No it is not bunk it is pretty good. Like i said i had some 2CI that i did one week and i tried some of the red devils and the trip was almost exactly the same. They are a drug and are illegal in the USA and Australia. They are legal in New Zealand and Europe as a harm reduction drug. This is what is in them Erowid BZP Vault and Erowid TFMPP Vault. http://www.spiritualhigh.co.uk/spiri...and-report.pdf

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Ganjafarmer
http://www.rollitup.org/grow-journal...lood-grow.html

and you got these shipped to America?

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Preacherman, don't tell me, Heaven is under the earth. I know you don't know What life is really worth.

Incredible. Call me a conservative, but I don't understand how drugs and/or "drug substitutes" can be considered legal as part of a "harm reduction" program. Here in the U.S., harm reduction means acknowledging that there is a persistent problem, and providing educational programs in hopes that people will be disuaded from drug use. I'm curious if giving people weak ass substitutes instead of the real thing actually works. I personally would much prefer the real thing to a legalized substitute, but I'm just an American.

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i think i'm using weed as a fill-in, cuz mary always lets me hit it.....

Yes. Just like seeds.

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Ganjafarmer
http://www.rollitup.org/grow-journal...lood-grow.html

What harm reduction programs are you referring to, TV commercials, Just say no. Yeah those are really working. The Feds are really winning the War on its own people, oh i mean Drugs. Yeah that's the ticket. I haven't seen any of these programs you are referring to. The only one's i know of are lengthy prison sentences which are more harmful than the drugs themselves. That's why we keep building more prisons. Its become big business to lock people up for any type of drug. Why do you think the Feds are fighting so hard to keep marijuana illegal in our country and Canada even though 1/2 the US population has or does smoke marijuana. Job security that's why. Most drug arrests in the US on our highways are for marijuana and cocaine. What do you think would happen if marijuana was legalized? Crime would go down and we would have room in our prisons for real criminals and we would not need to build new prisons. Less DEA agents, cops, prison guards, probation officers, judges. New Zealand and Europe have these drugs legal because they have a really bad meth problem and a lot of kids were dying from bunk X as well. They have allowed these drugs to stay legal to try and prevent deaths. They know that a WAR on Drugs and its own people does not work and they are trying to do something different. They are thinking outside of the box and are trying to do something similar to what Holland does. The government in New Zealand knows that people are going to do these types of drugs anyways and they feel these these types of drugs are a safer alternative. That's why they call them harm reduction drugs.

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Ganjafarmer
http://www.rollitup.org/grow-journal...lood-grow.html

whoa, there, stickyickyicky...you're preaching to the veritable chior, so don't get all defensive. I agree that U.S. "harm reduction" is a fucking joke, and very much a commercial endeavor on the part of our misguided government and legal system. The harm reduction programs that I was thinking of, which I think are really effective are those ones that are run by youth, and funded by the community and its supporting members. DanceSafe, is the one that springs to mind. Not sure of any others like this one, but they are nationwide, and I support this organization 200%.

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i think i'm using weed as a fill-in, cuz mary always lets me hit it.....