GHB ph extraction?
Quick question about ph adjustment. For the ghb tek there's a part where you add vinegar to adjust the ph. My question is.. Can one use mj ph up or ph down to adjust the chemical ph? Thanks in advance to my savvy chemists
GHB extraction? Are you sure your not synthesizing it? GHB is not naturally occurring (as far as I know) and well regulated in most countries. I'm not seeing a situation where you'd have something that contains GHB and contaminants that need removed.
I'm either going to need to know the tek you are working with or the starting material you have because nothing about this smells right. It sounds like you are getting seriously inaccurate information from somewhere.
I just worded it incorrectly. Extract ghb from gbl with lye and add vinnegar to adjust ph.
Can mj ph up or down be used?
The writeup you are using is wrong. If the PH is too high you add more GBL.
This is a better writeup follow it.
https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodi...y/ghb-r-us.txt
Lol I'm glad you're taking the time to read my post but you're missing my question entirely. Forget ghb or gbl. Can I use the ph down or up that you buy from a hydroponics shop to raise or lower the ph of a chemical soup instead of using vinegar?
Ok for the love of God just stop before you hurt yourself. This not an extraction, you are not working with soup! This is chemical synthesis, it is a delicate process. You need sodium hydroxide because you need the sodium atom to form an ionic bond with one of the oxygen atoms and you need the hydroxide to bond to the end of the carbon chain. If your PH is too high it's because you have added an excessive amount of sodium hydroxide. You do not fix that with vinegar, ph anything, or dog piss for that matter. You fix that by adding more of the other precursor. Chemistry may be difficult but this is a simple concept.Originally Posted by JediTangerine
Don't be rude. It's a simple yes or no question. No need to patronize me and my knowledge of the "chemical process". I can call it a chemical soup for general purposes if I damn well please. Good day sir!
Don't fuck with dangerous chemicals if you don't know what you are doing. My rudeness can be annoying, your ignorance can kill somebody (possibly you.)
No it is not. There is no answer I can give you that will be universally applicable. Obviously adding an acid or base to an aqueous solution will lower or raise pH respectively. The real questions are, will the particular acid or base in my brand of pH whatever effect the reaction, and what the fuck else have they added to this product.
You can wind up in the hospital or worse if you don't know what you are doing. You obviously don't know what you are doing and you haven't even done a modicum of studying to try and understand what you are doing. If you don't hurt yourself attempting reactions you will hurt yourself when you ingest the impure crap you turn out.
Yes I'm an asshole but I'm asshole who is trying to save you a painful experience and awkward trip to the hospital that involves you being handcuffed to the bed.
JediTangerine, what he is saying is you don't use any pH down in this. If your pH is high you need to add more GBL to bring it down. The GBL is your acid. Every molecule of GBL will react with a molecule of sodium hydroxide to for a molecule of sodium gammahydroxybutyrate. Your pH doesn't really matter as long as it's between 6-8. There's not much hydroxide floating around at those pHs and there will be a little GBL floating around because the some of the GHB will dehydrate and form the lactone no matter what. Just mix GBL and sodium hydroxide in a ratio of 86g:40g in say 500mL of water per 40g NaOH. That's a 2M solution which is equivalent to ~250g/L or .25g/mL. Nice easy numbers to work with. I like easy numbers, they make it really hard to screw up.
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