
11-27-2007, 09:05 PM
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11-27-2007, 09:07 PM
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| | Umm... look at my username, and take an educated guess.
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11-27-2007, 09:10 PM
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11-27-2007, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Ethnobotanist Umm... look at my username, and take an educated guess.
~Ethno | I seem to be having some trouble and from the looks of your user name you may be able to help, if you choose to. You see I started this little online ethnogarden exchange thing on myspace. Well, It is pretty much me(in the US) and 1 other person(in the UK) that do all the trading.
Here is my question, I received some Brugmansia seeds and can not seem to get them to sprout. I have read all the available guides on the internet and have a wealth of knowledge in my head and in notes. Do you know of any thing you have to do besides planting it in soil. For example, stratify the seed? I would try a bunch of different ways and figure it out by elimination, but I only have a few seeds and do not want to waste them.
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11-27-2007, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by aattocchi I seem to be having some trouble and from the looks of your user name you may be able to help, if you choose to. You see I started this little online ethnogarden exchange thing on myspace. Well, It is pretty much me(in the US) and 1 other person(in the UK) that do all the trading.
Here is my question, I received some Brugmansia seeds and can not seem to get them to sprout. I have read all the available guides on the internet and have a wealth of knowledge in my head and in notes. Do you know of any thing you have to do besides planting it in soil. For example, stratify the seed? I would try a bunch of different ways and figure it out by elimination, but I only have a few seeds and do not want to waste them. | I've never tried to grow brugmansia personally, and I know of only one person who has successfully grown them from seed. They're notoriously hard to germinate, and they're easily enough available as a pre-rooted plant in garden centres. Plus, they grow virtually all over the continental U.S. as an ornamental plant, so I've never had a need or desire to grow one out. I have, however, consumed a brugmanisa flower before, and it's not a entheogenic experiment I'd care to repeat- if I ever did it again, it would probably be a very small segment brewed into ayahausca, as is done among some Amazonian tribes. Atropa alkaloids are frightening, and that's saying something: virtually nothing frightens me.
First, I assume you have in your possession the seeds, and not simply the pod that contains the seed. If it's the latter, crack it open. I'm not sure of the shelf life of the seeds themselves after they've been removed from the pod, so I can't comment on their viability if the seeds were shipped by your friend. Tree daturas seeds can be stored for a while though, so far as I know, because they can enter a dormant state until conditions are JUST right to grow.
I do know of a few things that could help, as the aforementioned friend gave me a rundown of what he did. First, the seedling needs sandy, loamy soil. Peat moss is good, as is a sand/organic soil mixture. The soil should be -slightly- moist, but BARELY... These plants generally germinate better in drier areas, and they can enter a dormant state when there is no moisture. The main thing you need is HEAT. Tree daturas seem to love heat even more than the herbacious ones. If you have a heating mat, that's ideal. Aside from this, I can't really help you much... Atropine-containing plants aren't my cup of tea, as I said.
If your friend can procure seeds, see if he can get you a cutting, with some live growth toward the bottom to be removed for rooting (heel). This is your best bet, as these plants do well when planted as cuttings. It's difficult to germinate these babies, as you've already discovered. Good luck though on whatever you decide to do, and if you have any more questions, I'll do my best to answer them. Angel's Trumpet really is a beautiful (if deadly) tree.
~Ethno
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"For it is not what goes into your mouth that will defile you; rather, it is what comes out of your mouth that defiles you." - Jesus of Nazareth
"An if it harm none, do what ye will" - Wiccan Rede
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11-28-2007, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Ethnobotanist I've never tried to grow brugmansia personally, and I know of only one person who has successfully grown them from seed. They're notoriously hard to germinate, and they're easily enough available as a pre-rooted plant in garden centres. Plus, they grow virtually all over the continental U.S. as an ornamental plant, so I've never had a need or desire to grow one out. I have, however, consumed a brugmanisa flower before, and it's not a entheogenic experiment I'd care to repeat- if I ever did it again, it would probably be a very small segment brewed into ayahausca, as is done among some Amazonian tribes. Atropa alkaloids are frightening, and that's saying something: virtually nothing frightens me.
First, I assume you have in your possession the seeds, and not simply the pod that contains the seed. If it's the latter, crack it open. I'm not sure of the shelf life of the seeds themselves after they've been removed from the pod, so I can't comment on their viability if the seeds were shipped by your friend. Tree daturas seeds can be stored for a while though, so far as I know, because they can enter a dormant state until conditions are JUST right to grow.
I do know of a few things that could help, as the aforementioned friend gave me a rundown of what he did. First, the seedling needs sandy, loamy soil. Peat moss is good, as is a sand/organic soil mixture. The soil should be -slightly- moist, but BARELY... These plants generally germinate better in drier areas, and they can enter a dormant state when there is no moisture. The main thing you need is HEAT. Tree daturas seem to love heat even more than the herbacious ones. If you have a heating mat, that's ideal. Aside from this, I can't really help you much... Atropine-containing plants aren't my cup of tea, as I said.
If your friend can procure seeds, see if he can get you a cutting, with some live growth toward the bottom to be removed for rooting (heel). This is your best bet, as these plants do well when planted as cuttings. It's difficult to germinate these babies, as you've already discovered. Good luck though on whatever you decide to do, and if you have any more questions, I'll do my best to answer them. Angel's Trumpet really is a beautiful (if deadly) tree.
~Ethno | Yeah, beautiful plant man. like you, I have dabbled with this plant in the past, I did not find it frightening because I didn't realize I was in an awaken dream state. Everything was blurred except my visions. However, that was long ago and I have learned a lot since then(like the LD50 is almost the same as the effective dose). I also find it logical not to consume this plant.
I planted some the way you described 5 days ago. I had planted a couple in some moisture control soil about 2 weeks ago. The seeds are from this year, and I am probably being impatient. Thank you!
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11-28-2007, 01:45 PM
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11-29-2007, 09:20 PM
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11-29-2007, 09:45 PM
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| | This is a tag from a 13 inch cactus I purchased from Lowes for 2 USD.
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11-30-2007, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by aattocchi This is a tag from a 13 inch cactus I purchased from Lowes for 2 USD. | LOL, I thought it would be bigger, but it is from a T. pachanoi.
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