Time to make some opium!

d.c. beard

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Alright guys, I know a lot of you have done this before but this is my first time and I just want to make sure that I do it right. Also, I should state that I don't want any discussion about whether or not opiates are addictive, how you should handle using them, whether or not they are 'bad', and general 'feelings' about opiate use. This thread is for me to find out some facts so that I may prepare this smoking opium properly and with the highest potency possible. This is not a thread about people's 'feelings', and I do not want any advice regarding opiate addiction. Rather, just the facts on opium production! ;-)

I ordered the pods online from a supposedly reputable source, (1) Giant Size Pods w/ Stems. The description stated "15 - 17 pods", and I got exactly 15. They are basically pristine, with no major damage whatsoever. They came shipped in a plain brown box, and although the box actually did get dented a bit and the tape was barely holding the thing shut really there was no real damage to the pods. One pod did crack in half, but not the whole way through so it is still perfectly intact at the moment. I guess if I were actually going to make a dried glower arrangement with this I might be a little irritated, but I plan on grinding them all up anyway so who cares? lol

FYI the stems are on average 18" long, and the pods themselves are 2" long with a diameter of about 2" as well.

So I basically know how to prepare this concoction, but I have a few advanced questions I guess. Like:

1) I read somewhere that when you steep the ground up pods and stems, do so in water Ph'd to something like 6.4. It was saying that slightly acidic solution would draw out more of the alkaloids or something...? Can anyone comment on this? I grow pot, I'm no chemistry major!

2) Okay, question or problem #2 rather is my super generic rock-bottom of the line GE electric range here has an old-school rotary knob and no digital readout. So with that in mind, The available temps offered start at 'Warm' and then progress to 200 degrees F. So....once you steep the ground up pods, aren't you supposed to keep it below 170 degrees F while you cook the excess liquid off in the stove? Anybody have an idea about this? I did buy an oven thermometer, which I am using right now to test the accuracy of the oven out at 200 degrees.

3) And finally, all feelings about whether this is morally or ethically right or wrong aside, can the finished 'smoking opium' product be ingested or snorted? I'm well aware that the easiest, least addictive, and most easily titratable way of consumption is smoking it. I want to know what other options there are, and how they compare to smoking it in regards to amount used per 'dose' so to say....meaning, which method of consumption OTHER THAN IV INJECTION makes the best use of the least amount. I have never stuck a needle into my body, and not dissing those who have, but this is the one option that's just not and option for me. But other than that, I'm down with whatever else.

So here's a pic of my dried flower arrangement hehehe. Thanks for the help! I'll keep posting as I make the extract. Plenty 'o pics to follow...
 

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worm5376

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Happy to see you received your pods! :)

I'm in no shape to be giving advice so I'll hit this back up in the morning ;)

I don't want to give bad advice and come back saying "I was STONED MANNN" :lol:
 

Drifter126

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Alright guys, I know a lot of you have done this before but this is my first time and I just want to make sure that I do it right. Also, I should state that I don't want any discussion about whether or not opiates are addictive, how you should handle using them, whether or not they are 'bad', and general 'feelings' about opiate use. This thread is for me to find out some facts so that I may prepare this smoking opium properly and with the highest potency possible. This is not a thread about people's 'feelings', and I do not want any advice regarding opiate addiction. Rather, just the facts on opium production! ;-)

I ordered the pods online from a supposedly reputable source, (1) Giant Size Pods w/ Stems. The description stated "15 - 17 pods", and I got exactly 15. They are basically pristine, with no major damage whatsoever. They came shipped in a plain brown box, and although the box actually did get dented a bit and the tape was barely holding the thing shut really there was no real damage to the pods. One pod did crack in half, but not the whole way through so it is still perfectly intact at the moment. I guess if I were actually going to make a dried glower arrangement with this I might be a little irritated, but I plan on grinding them all up anyway so who cares? lol

FYI the stems are on average 18" long, and the pods themselves are 2" long with a diameter of about 2" as well.

So I basically know how to prepare this concoction, but I have a few advanced questions I guess. Like:

1) I read somewhere that when you steep the ground up pods and stems, do so in water Ph'd to something like 6.4. It was saying that slightly acidic solution would draw out more of the alkaloids or something...? Can anyone comment on this? I grow pot, I'm no chemistry major!

2) Okay, question or problem #2 rather is my super generic rock-bottom of the line GE electric range here has an old-school rotary knob and no digital readout. So with that in mind, The available temps offered start at 'Warm' and then progress to 200 degrees F. So....once you steep the ground up pods, aren't you supposed to keep it below 170 degrees F while you cook the excess liquid off in the stove? Anybody have an idea about this? I did buy an oven thermometer, which I am using right now to test the accuracy of the oven out at 200 degrees.

3) And finally, all feelings about whether this is morally or ethically right or wrong aside, can the finished 'smoking opium' product be ingested or snorted? I'm well aware that the easiest, least addictive, and most easily titratable way of consumption is smoking it. I want to know what other options there are, and how they compare to smoking it in regards to amount used per 'dose' so to say....meaning, which method of consumption OTHER THAN IV INJECTION makes the best use of the least amount. I have never stuck a needle into my body, and not dissing those who have, but this is the one option that's just not and option for me. But other than that, I'm down with whatever else.

So here's a pic of my dried flower arrangement hehehe. Thanks for the help! I'll keep posting as I make the extract. Plenty 'o pics to follow...
I`m tryin to find some poppy seeds.Anybody knbow where to find any?
 

d.c. beard

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Happy to see you received your pods! :)

I'm in no shape to be giving advice so I'll hit this back up in the morning ;)

I don't want to give bad advice and come back saying "I was STONED MANNN" :lol:
Hey your stoned advice is probably better than most's sober! Come on you know you wanna...besides we're ALL stoned, I'm smoking now! lol :eyesmoke:
 

d.c. beard

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OK 34 views and only 1 real response! lol

Anyway, I found out that the Ph of the water for boiling the pods should be at 6.5 for optimal morphine extraction. This was one of my biggies that I wanted to figure out.

Well, back to grinding pods.... :eyesmoke:
 

2cimdma

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So what exactly are you trying to do? Make tea or trying to extract alkaloids for other uses? If your trying to get opium for smoking purposes your not going to get much at all off of 15 pods. Off 10 live pods when grown well I would get a gram of raw opium. The best bet for 15 pods is going to just make some tea. https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/149643-persian-white-poppies-dwc-soil-3.html#post1965764

Someone asked where to get poppy seeds. You can buy them on the internet, use to be able to buy them off of ebay but Im not sure if you still can or not. Seeds are easy to get, they arent illegal in the US so there are a bunch of places that sell them
 

jakethetank

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If your lookin for seeds, go to vietnam and run around the jungle. This is a Marijuana smoking cultivation site, not opium. Personally i think its fucken retarded to cultivate smoke or even handle that shit, but were all different..
 

d.c. beard

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If your lookin for seeds, go to vietnam and run around the jungle. This is a Marijuana smoking cultivation site, not opium. Personally i think its fucken retarded to cultivate smoke or even handle that shit, but were all different..
Hmmmm, I seem to remember saying something about feelings....what was it now? Oh yeah, here it is:

"Also, I should state that I don't want any discussion about whether or not opiates are addictive, how you should handle using them, whether or not they are 'bad', and general 'feelings' about opiate use."

I don't want this thread to turn into another stupid battle over people's feelings about opiates in general or opium specifically. So please keep all feelings and opinions not related to the discussion at hand to yourself.
 

d.c. beard

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Jesus, although I've developed a pretty good 'pinch, twist, rip, and tear' method lol this breaking up of the stems is a real biatch. I'm trying to break them all down into little 1" pieces to fit into the tiny food processor.

Anyone know where to get a miniature chipper/shredder? lol Time to pack another bong! bongsmilie
 

worm5376

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If your lookin for seeds, go to vietnam and run around the jungle. This is a Marijuana smoking cultivation site, not opium. Personally i think its fucken retarded to cultivate smoke or even handle that shit, but were all different..
When I say this, keep in mind I'm saying this with the upmost respect.

So with all do RESPECT, you should have choked on a marble as a kid:|
With all do RESPECT sir ;)
 

d.c. beard

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Alright well this is going to take a lot longer than I originally thought, and I might have to pick up some sort of better grinder/processor to do it with. I don't know, I'm sure the pods themselves will grind up a lot easier, but these stems/stalks are a real test of the food chopper due to how fibrous it is.

I think I'm going to make tea out of the stems, and putty out of the pods. We'll see, either way it's going to be tomorrow cause after this bongload of Hashberry I'm crashing. Peace for tonight.
 

sagensour

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Im so lost. I take vics, but if I can grow it and just make a tea a couple times a year as a treat. Fuck, Im scribed. Whats up with the Poppy Seeds, are those really opiates?
 

kmoo

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Alright well this is going to take a lot longer than I originally thought, and I might have to pick up some sort of better grinder/processor to do it with. I don't know, I'm sure the pods themselves will grind up a lot easier, but these stems/stalks are a real test of the food chopper due to how fibrous it is.

I think I'm going to make tea out of the stems, and putty out of the pods. We'll see, either way it's going to be tomorrow cause after this bongload of Hashberry I'm crashing. Peace for tonight.
i use heaps of different devices for different stuff but i reckon a "happy chopper" would do ya lol it's tupperware. i have one for food and one for err, other stuff

can't advise any further on the making of opium but i'll sure be watchin out of curiosity lol good luck!
 

hightyde27

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Poppy seeds from a seasoning company? wtf... 10 bucks says they're GMO and won't produce any alkaloids. All the same, I'm curious as hell. If those fuckin things work I'm going to safeway :)
 

Big P

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go don go go go don


im PM you if this works:hump:



ok guys when i made my tea i heated it for like 25 Min at a little over 150 Deg f


Do you think this was why I didnt get high? or were my pods just bunk?



also if you use the magic bullet I think sold at walmart it crushes them like crazy:

Great for grinding ganga into dust also:

 

d.c. beard

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Ahha! Big P you da man dawg! Magic Bullet at Wal Mart...hahaha gotta go get that shit. What is it, like $15 or something? Great suggestion, it looks like it'd work a HELL of a lot better than this mini food chopper that I'm using right now.
 

Big P

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Ahha! Big P you da man dawg! Magic Bullet at Wal Mart...hahaha gotta go get that shit. What is it, like $15 or something? Great suggestion, it looks like it'd work a HELL of a lot better than this mini food chopper that I'm using right now.

make sure you double check if they have it in the store im not 100% on that
 
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