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I've been reading online and this seems like a pretty simple thing to make. Does anyone know of any difficulties that SWIM would have to overcome if they were to attempt a synthesis?
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Old 08-16-2009, 04:34 PM
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Well, first off, that SWIM shit won't hold up in court at all if you were to get caught so you may as well just say "I."
Secondly, this isn't DF, no need to use SWIM. Nobody here cares about incrimination here.

All of the 2C-B synths is most definitely not as simple as it may look:

EDDA (Ethylenediamediacetate) is hard enough to find and is pretty expensive

Benzaldehyde is a List I chemical (and also OTC if you know where to look ) so 2,5-dimethoxybenzaldehyde is probably watched (pretty much no use except in making 2C-H which can make 2C-B, 2C-I, etc so this should definitely be watched by now). It is also pretty expensive.

DCM (Dichloromethane) is some nasty stuff that is volitile and dangerous (inhale it and your gone, better fume the hell out the room and keep a few exchiguishers handy.



If you are not doing the synth I am rerferring to:


LAH method, NaBH4 method, and the one I am referring to all produce horrible yields as well.


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Expensive startup chemicals
Potentially dangerous chemicals
Horrible yields


2C-B itself isn't even worthwhile to synthesize.

Best bet is to forget about it and don't waste your time on 2C-B or any 2C compound synth.
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They do have some terrible yields!
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I priced the chems out and it was around $1700... And that was ALL the chemicals required and I think the yield is about 31 grams after everything is done, which has a street value of about 62000 where I'm from.

I have no way to get the money to start this, nor do I have the bio-chem skills required, I am just a curious person.
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Well, first off, that SWIM shit won't hold up in court at all if you were to get caught so you may as well just say "I."
Secondly, this isn't DF, no need to use SWIM. Nobody here cares about incrimination here.

All of the 2C-B synths is most definitely not as simple as it may look:

EDDA (Ethylenediamediacetate) is hard enough to find and is pretty expensive

Benzaldehyde is a List I chemical (and also OTC if you know where to look ) so 2,5-dimethoxybenzaldehyde is probably watched (pretty much no use except in making 2C-H which can make 2C-B, 2C-I, etc so this should definitely be watched by now). It is also pretty expensive.

DCM (Dichloromethane) is some nasty stuff that is volitile and dangerous (inhale it and your gone, better fume the hell out the room and keep a few exchiguishers handy.



If you are not doing the synth I am rerferring to:


LAH method, NaBH4 method, and the one I am referring to all produce horrible yields as well.


So:

Expensive startup chemicals
Potentially dangerous chemicals
Horrible yields


2C-B itself isn't even worthwhile to synthesize.

Best bet is to forget about it and don't waste your time on 2C-B or any 2C compound synth.
Thanks for the info. I have no bio-chem experience, or lab equip, so I don't think I'll be attempting this now.
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What's with everyone sayin Bio-chemistry????? It's not proteins, lipids, carbohydrates, and nucleic acids!! It's organic chemistry right!!!
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What's with everyone sayin Bio-chemistry????? It's not proteins, lipids, carbohydrates, and nucleic acids!! It's organic chemistry right!!!
Sorry. Most people that I've read about said bio-chem, so I assumed thats what it was. Shows how unlikely it is that I can actually synth this stuff.
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Lol, I no rite..
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Thanks for the info. I have no bio-chem experience, or lab equip, so I don't think I'll be attempting this now.
It is not necessarily needed. Making something like ice is within the means of even the dumbest of people. Damn I smoke to much...

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What's with everyone sayin Bio-chemistry????? It's not proteins, lipids, carbohydrates, and nucleic acids!! It's organic chemistry right!!!
Correct.
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It was almost rhetorical but thanks for the confirmation.
 
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