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Old 07-14-2009, 01:08 PM
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OK so I just checked the jars again and they're doing great overall! Out of the 7 remaining, one is contaminated (just on the verge of it but enough to toss it), one isn't quite ready yet, and the other 5 are ready so I'm dunking and rolling those ones.. Right now they're dunking, but later (around 4:20am? lol) I'm going to roll them in the vermiculite then place them in the fruiting chamber.. I'll take some pics when they're in the fruiter and post them by tomorrow morning
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OK so I just checked the jars again and they're doing great overall! Out of the 7 remaining, one is contaminated (just on the verge of it but enough to toss it), one isn't quite ready yet, and the other 5 are ready so I'm dunking and rolling those ones.. Right now they're dunking, but later (around 4:20am? lol) I'm going to roll them in the vermiculite then place them in the fruiting chamber.. I'll take some pics when they're in the fruiter and post them by tomorrow morning
so your dunking your cases before you are starting the fruiting process? i thought that was to be done after the first flush?
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so your dunking your cases before you are starting the fruiting process? i thought that was to be done after the first flush?
Since the mycelium needs air exchange (to breathe) during colonization this means there's a gap somewhere in the jar, causing the cake to lose some of its moisture content.. some people dunk and roll after the first flush but it's highly recommended to move that dunk and roll to before the first flush

http://www.mushroomvideos.com/

Sorry I haven't gotten pics up yet, I'm a little paranoid around the cakes when it comes to contamination so I'm trying to do everything as quick as possible with as little touching/handling as possible, I'll get them up as soon as I can
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some great vids. definatly going to drunk and roll my cakes after birth, still trying to figure out if i want to use the pf tek, or go with the birdseed ;\. im also going to be workign with the z-strain
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give us a picture, I'll try to help.
I wouldn't worry about the beige looking myc, it happens....

In my experience 99% of what goes wrong, starts with the syringe makeing process.
Unsterile syringe contents will contaminate 9 times out of 10, if not more.
Also not flameing the needle in between jars, is asking for it.
Injection of lots of spore or liquid mycelium is another baddy, the more stuff you squirt into your sterile jars, the higher the statistical odds gets for intruducing contaminants, aim for 1ml or less.
If you take care of that, you should have 0 problems.

Once in the jars and past the 4 day mark, you should realy be all good. Provided you make provision for adequate gas exchange. Especialy important when working with grains. I find a simple 10ml hole plugged with aquarium filter floss (polyfill), is the best for this. Twyvek can be used but I find it hard to get a nice seal that prefents dust and airborne spores getting past. DON'T use cotton wool, it gets soggy, is crap hard to get a needle through, and is made of stuff the shrooms can eat.


I cant even remember when last I had a contam, and I'd hate to say how many jars I make in a month.

Of course, and this is personal opinion, which could be influenced by environmental factors...I think cakes are a waste of time.
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4 days so far no pins but that's normal.. I'm just anxious

Maintaining 75F and 95% RH
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I think I'm gonna start my Z Strain tomorrow. I just gotta read up on a few more things then I should be set. Post some pics once they start to pin.
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I think I'm gonna start my Z Strain tomorrow. I just gotta read up on a few more things then I should be set. Post some pics once they start to pin.
Sweet I'd love to follow that if you start a log.. And yes I'll definitely post pinning pics, so far there's still nothing but the cakes still smell like mushroom so there's no contam and they're still alive and well

The FC does get a little warm at night when I put the light on in there but it's not too bad, only up to 80F max and RH is still between 90%-100% (I had to mist this morning as it dropped to 90%, i sort of left the containers a bit open so the moisture excaped)
 
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