The Opiates Thread

I started this thread to answer some questions and dispell myths about pain killers and heroin.
First off, I have been using opiates (oxy, morphine, Fentanyl, Dilaudid, Opana, ect) and heroin for 11 years. I don't claim to know everything but I do know a little.
The first myth I want to dispell is that the poppies that grow in America are opium-free. This is a lie. Some poppies contain more than others, but they all have some opium. The seeds in spice jars seem to be the best. Go to your grandmothers house and slice her poppies, they will produce very potent, very smokable opium.
Secondly, heroin/opiates aren't toxic in responsible doses. Infact, opiates are no more toxic than marijuana. Humans have ingested opiates for tens of thousands of years. They have very little to no impact on the liver, kidneys, or brain. It didn't start killing people and ruining lives until prohibition was enacted. This drives the price up and ensures the product is unregulated. Before prohibition, heroin/morphine could be purchased at any pharmacy at a resonable price, ensuring the users safety and allowing them to live a decent life. Now-a-days the price has skyrocketed, forcing users to focus thier energy on doing nothing but getting money and getting high. This yo-yo effect of constantly going from being high to withdrawling not only is very stressfull for the addict, but promotes overdosing.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask. I also want anyone with experience with opiates to join in. Knowledge is Power. For more info on growing opium poppies, read Opium for the Masses.

I never knew that about the other poppies. Good read, man.

I've never tried any opiates, but I've heard that the withdrawal symptoms are pretty bad. I was looking to buy some Kratom, and I'm just wondering, if I use it regularly how bad will they really be if I were to stop cold turkey?

stay off the heron

ive been using opiates for a few years, never smoked anything made from poppys and ive never shot up because im a little girly girl when it comes to needles. i have tried the real stuff but far perfer pills over real heroin. i admit ive had a pill problem a few times but the phisical withdrawrals could be curved by sugar and caffene and mental ones just require strong will, and disassocitaing your self with drug dealers and users to eliminate temptation. i remember the guy i got pills from would call me while i was trying to quit, i would yell at him and call him all sorts of names and shit, just hoping hed hate me and not call me back. evry time ive relapsed he allways wants to sell no matter what ive said

all i can say is have fun while it lasts, when it controlls your life, stay the fuck away

Kratom isn't a true opiate. Some addicts use it to help with withdrawl but withdrawls from it are minimal, like giving up caffeine. And as much as I appreciate the response, Kaleo, try to keep the dire warnings to a minimum. We all know opiates are addictive, it's old news. There are just as many people out their warning you about the dangers of the gateway drug marijuana. Scare tactics aren't helpful. No one in this forum got here by behaving themselves.

Originally Posted by .Calico

Kratom isn't a true opiate. Some addicts use it to help with withdrawl but withdrawls from it are minimal, like giving up caffeine. And as much as I appreciate the response, Kaleo, try to keep the dire warnings to a minimum. We all know opiates are addictive, it's old news. There are just as many people out their warning you about the dangers of the gateway drug marijuana. Scare tactics aren't helpful. No one in this forum got here by behaving themselves.

tru dat

never heard of kratom, gonna have to do a wiki check

Seeing As How Early, Not Very Clever, Homo Sapiens Left Africa Only 50,000 Years Ago It's Plausible But Not Probable That Opium, The Latex Released From Lacerated Immature Opium Pods Were Smoked Tens Of Thousands Of Years Ago. The Earliest Known Use Of Opium Was In Fact Not Even 10,000 Years Ago. It Was 6200 Years Ago. Found In Neolithic Settlements Is Switzerland. Just My Two Cents On That Subject....

dutty, dutty and dutty. Not judging anyone who does it, its ya own fucking body, your own mind your own health and your own hooks and ledges. Just be safe and peaceful
love you all
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