oh and morphine PHOSPHATE or HCL are the pill forms... when taken wrongly they can produce desired effects but if taken IV or orally in right dose.... it is not one of the more addicting opiates... its the purest form of itself besides heroin..... because once morphine enters your body it IS heroin after breakdown. and is any of the rest of that info false? the answer is no. I am a college grad and youre probably in high school living with mom. youve done the drugs.... you were probably the bottom of the barrel but that doesnt make you educated on what it is you put yourself with to feel better about your probably shitty ass life.

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much respect, jazzman. I overstepped and "made shit up" as my wife calls it.

Anyone who has come out the other side knows the true gig. I was fortunate my doc freaked on me...and although I would have rather he HELPED me kick and supported my mmj usage...I am glad things came full-circle. I started with the herb and I've returned to the herb.

I wish you well

good luck

bt dt

Ganzy - Apparently those degrees didn't help bro. I'm not exactly sure how I offended you... maybe you're a junkie in denial? I'm afraid you're wrong, again. And, just out of curiosity, what the fuck does income have to do with opiate addiction? I'm a recovered opiate addict, and simply speaking the truth. I've been clean for a LONG, long time, thanks to God alone. I'm glad you're proud of your degrees, all 2 of them, but it doesn't seem to have helped you. I'm finishing my masters in Jazz performance. My knowledge comes from simple experience.

Again, this is your second post with bad info. I don't need to search bro. There is NO CODEINE IN TUSSIONEX. Try again. And Tussionex, as I said, contains an antihistamine. Has nothing to do with NAUSEA. At what point did I attack YOU? You've set yourself up to be made an ASS of. My posts were about CONCERN for people enjoying the same shit that took a great toll on me. The more important question at this point, is Who the fuck are YOU? I think I very clearly explained my attitude. You, however, have not. Even worse, you don't seem to know shit. I DO. And I know these things because they fucked up my life. EXPLAIN YOURSELF. OR SHUT THE FUCK UP UNTIL YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

Holy shit bro. Now I know you're an idiot. In high school? Living with Mom? Your apparent education has apparently NOT helped you. Every word that you've posted is laughable, and just plain wrong. If I DID live with mommy, and WAS in high school, WHAT THE FUCK WOULD IT HAVE TO DO WITH MY EXPERIENCE WITH ADDICTION? You have NO clue what the fuck you're talking about. You're talking directly out of your ASS. I'm glad you graduated. Wonderful. Who the fuck cares? You brought this on yourself by being such a prick, and that DESPITE THAT FACT THAT YOUR APPARENT EDUCATION HASN'T HELPED YOU. I'm afraid you're the one who sounds like an immature child. My life, thank God, is prett sweet, now that my opiate experience is OVER. That experience is something I would never wish on anyone, even a dumb ass like yourself. Have you ever even tried morphine? Are you stupid? Is that a statement that you want people to even believe? God forbid someone actually listens to your crazy immature educated ass.

Ganzy, again, you asked for this. I explained my passionate attitude as best I could. GO GET A CLUE, GET SOME LIFE EXPERIENCE, AND PLEASE DON'T POST YOUR FUCKED UP INFO UNTIL YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. STOP THE IMMATURE RANTS, AND LOW BLOWS. YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ME. I, HOWEVER, NOW KNOW QUITE A BIT ABOUT YOU. AS DO ALL THE PEOPLE READING YOUR ABSURD POSTS.

Forgot about your first incredibly intelligent post. Again with the tussionex, huh? You want ME to search? And that whole "morphine is the safest..." thing, how's that workin' out for ya? Get a clue. Get a refund for those degrees. And stop being such a little bitch. If I offend you, tell me like a fucking adult. If you take issue with something I've said, again, tell me like a MAN, not a fucking child with no brain, who has to resort to "You live with your MOM. You're in HIGH SCHOOL"

Peace to everyone else. Be careful. BTDT, what up man. Who is this freak?
BOY, that really hurt. So ORIGINAL, too.

Just thought I would add that Ive had 3 friends, one which was very close to me die from fucking oxycotton. The shit can easily kill you if your not careful. All three of them went to sleep because they were "tired". Their hearts stopped beating in their sleep and they died.

Just thought I would tell you guys, hopefully your careful with the stuff.

Each teaspoonful (5 mL) of TUSSIONEX® contains hydrocodone polistirex equivalent to 10 mg hydrocodone bitartrate and chlorpheniramine polistirex equivalent to 8 mg chlorpheniramine maleate.

Thats from the tussionex website.... maybe theyre lying? This isnt an allergy medicine... its used for coughs. Codeine is a very successful cough suppressant. It causes nausea so companies put in things like promenthazine and shit like that to get rid of those effects. Generic versoins are available but they all contain codeine. Im not going to come on this site to argue with you but I have one question for you, do you see any successful, rich business men banging OC or base?

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To sit here and actually argue with me on a growing info website and reat the way you are reacting right now gives me a little more insight on exactly who the fuck Im speaking with. I know your kind, and to be honest youre just a bunch of rats.... know it alls who have been through hell and back (according to them) being an addict. Now that youve come out which Is good and Im glad you escaped the grasp of addiction, doesnt mean you know really what it is youre talking about.... If that was the case the junkies you see in the city would be experts. I may have gotten too personal and I apoligize, but I bet Im not extemely far off. And please it makes you look so foolish to call me an idiot about this when CLEARLY im right... take 30 seconds to google tussionex and youll see that. and to the morphine thing... its addicting but if it is as addicting as you say.. people with broken arms that attend the hospital every day would be then hooked, we would all be junkies.... thats not how it is so obviously the reason its used in medicine is because it is so safe and one of the less addiciting opiates... I didnt say not addicting at all just one of the less addicting opiates. I hope this ends now because I really think you need to educate yourself a bit more before you start arguing with a person who has a degree in this and spends his life daily studying things like this.

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Our kind? Wow...thanks so much Ganzy. I guess you musta skipped the chapter in yer big book of knowledge entitled "Compassion for Others"..huh?

To me, minimizing *any* opiate use is foolish and fails to illustrate a deep knowledge and understanding of the substance. Maybe you have scads of "book learning"...but it is apparent your real life experiences are extremely limited...if not non-existent.

In the end the specific chemical makeup of these drugs means so very little in the realm of addiction. Your comment about morphine is exactly like saying that ya can't become an alcoholic if you only drink beer.

In the end, alcohol is alcohol no matter what flavor it comes in.

In the end, if it originates from the poppy the addiction potential is huge.

but hey..if ya wanna believe otherwise and be a fool...that's yer call.

I'm opiate free...so at this point...it's all water under the bridge for me and I'm out of this conversation and on to better things.

be safe all.

bt dt

Once again, Ganzy, you're making a fool of yourself. You attacked me, remember? And you didn't get "personal", you got stupid. And immature. And NO, they're not lying, you're just an IDIOT. You claim to have a degree, yet you don't know the difference between CODEINE and HYDROCODONE? Even after you had to go to their fucking website?? I'll say it again, there is NO CODEINE IN TUSSIONEX. You haven't been arguing, Ganzy baby, you've simply been WRONG. And again you feel the need to attack me personally. Did you even read the quote you posted? You've backed up the fact that you're talking out of your ASS, and that I was indeed correct. I never said that Tussionex was an allergy medicine. I simply stated that it contains an antihistamine. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS? I can't believe I have to waste my time correcting you. Didn't you say you have a degree? Are you retarded? I've attacked you for your half-assed information, and have yet to stoop to your level with your personal half-assed attacks. Did you even read that part about "chlorpheniramine"??????? There is also NO ANTI-NAUSEA agent in Tussionex. Your degree should've taught you that, if not your own damn quote.

I have NO clue what you mean by your last question. I don't bang OC, but I am succesful, and relatively rich. And I am ONLY that by God's GRACE. I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. And how did base come up? More of your insecure, angry, rambling, inaccurate nonsense? And yes, Ganzy, many, many, MANY people, in all walks of life, and all income levels, pop/bang/snort/smoke whatever opiate they can get their hands on. It's called addiction. Are you an addict? I am as well. I've been clean for a long time; is that what bothers you? Or is it something else? Please let me know; you haven't made much sense thus far. Your education should have taught you the difference between Codeine, and a semi-synthetic opiate like Hydrocodone. Your whole pissed off immature argument, personal attacks and all, is based from a stupid, confused mistake. One that you, with those degrees you love so much, should NEVER have made. I know nothing about chemistry. I'm a successful jazz and classical musician, and teacher. I run my own recording studio. My knowledge comes from a disgusting experience which you seem to resent somehow... Now, onto your next fact filled and mature post...