once you see all those baby shrooms starting to pop out its not as bad.
i mean before all i had was jars of some white stuff..not too exciting
but now i can see the shrooms starting and know that it wont be long, plus they look all crazy..i often find myself with my face against the glass trying to get a good look through the condensation and figure out exactly whats going on in there.


oh yeah the third cake now has its first pin.

You need to give them some fresh air a few times a day, because the myc puts off CO2. I use 2 64qt clear tubs, and cut golfball sixed holes and stuff them with polyfill. Here is a pic of my grow chamber. Also, wild bird seed is the way to go!

Not tryin to jack your thread, but if you wanna grow the strongest strain....Penis Envy will blow your mind!! Also, next time you use tape, use Nexcare flexable tape. It has micro pores so the myc can breath. You can find it in the first aid section about anywhere. Here is some PE for you.

damn man..very nice, thank you for sharing those pictures

i open it up and fan it out every few hours.

and i will try the birdseed sometime

Yes, try to fan atleast 2 to 3 times a day. They thrive for oxygen. There is no need to fan if you can cut holes and use pollyfill, it acts like a filter, so you wont have to worry about contams.

im here most of the time so throughout the day i fan probably 5-6 times..

i wanted to ask you what you keep your temp at in your fc
and also have you ever used rye and do WBS and rye perform any different or do they basically function the same..
last one, do you inoculate the birdseed with a liquid culture or with spores?

ive wanted to try casings since i started this project..but i thought it might be too difficult or advanced so i thought i might try it after this pf-tek..well those shrooms are popping up and im seeing that its not so hard. hardest part is trying to keep decent temps in my poorly insulated house.

I looked this morning and saw little mushrooms starting on two of my cakes and I stared at them for like 30 minutes haha. I am interested in casing with birdseed as well, since I don't even know where to get rye.

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are you growing mushrooms for the first time bob?
anyway, congrats on the little shroomies..that didnt take too long
youll be killing your ego in no time

Yeah Jolly this is my first go around and luckily I haven't had any problem with contams.

I did the pf tek. One the first 6 jars I used BRF. Out of those 6 5 fully colonized and one didn't do anything ( I may have missed it with the needle idk). A week later I knocked up 6 more jars but instead of BRF I used just regular Brown Rice. Anyways the last six jars haven't fully colonized the jar because I guess the mycelium went straight for the rice and dismissed a lot of the verm around it. Oh well, I'll be sure to never do it again, lesson learned. I'm going to take the last six jars and try to do a casing layer so maybe I can get some shrooms out of it. We'll see.

As far as the ego goes, I have been studying a lot of different religions and philosophies. I been meditating a lot too. As far as I can tell the Ego is necessary but in a weird paradox it keeps you from seeing the Truth. So after a lot of study I've decided that instead of spending years in deep meditation I will ingest like 6 grams of shrooms to kill it, if only momentarily. At least I hear when you kill it time goes too (because it is only a mental construct) so even if it only dies for a second that second will be forever haha. I believe terrence mckenna said that meditation is all we have left from past religious ceremonies and that weed and shrooms should be used in conjunction with meditation.

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This is the best way...almost exactly like mine but I now only make 2 ,2 inch holes in my tubs and mine are only 20 gallons but I use a small inebulizer basically a big fish pump and run Ts off it to provide each tub with its own low pressure O2 supply...a t5 or t8 aquarium light, some colonized millet spawned to a Horse poo mix and your off like a prom dress...
wall to wall flushes with more custom substrate...

try a 1:1:1:1 ratio of Hpoo, coco coir, worm castings, straw, with 5-10% gypsum by volume(about a quart) and about 3 cups of vermiculite...makes about several gallons or tubs worth.

WAY easier than the the PF crap TEK, no dunking or rolling BS no cold shocking no crap, just a pressure cooker is extra...which I think the poster said they have already...your already set up to do it.
or you CAN take your pf cakes and spawn them to this mix too, millet and rye are just better, IMO millet is best cheapest easiest to prepare but rye is good...but if youve gone this far just realise how much easier this is and you wont ever go back once you get 5 flushes back to back and several ounces out of one tub in a month...