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Old 09-02-2008, 02:21 PM
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Default help, is it ok for me to do shrooms again
hi, i had a bad experience on shrooms and i was wondering if it was safe for me to take them again.

Ive been smoking weed for a long time never really tried anything else just smoke and drank all through highschool, i graduated this year and i wanted to try something else during the summer, just to say that I did.

early on in the summer i took like 2.5 grams, for my first trip i figured it wouldnt be too bad. I ended up having a fucking sick night with all my boys we trekked through a forest in the rain and shit it was amazing, the lights all around at night time looked so cool. Smoked lots of weed too and had an amazing night, went home and went to bed. woke up the next morning feeling totally fine.

I had an awesome trip that night, and already i was looking forward to the next time i took them. All summer i waited, and about a week ago i took them again with a friend of mine, did a half quarter this time because 2.5 didnt really make me hallucinate it just made things look different and kind of colorful.

This time it was only me and a friend, the rest of the people around weren't taking them. My mindset wasn't as positive going into this trip as it was when i was going into the first one. I took these shrooms at about 9pm, and around 10:30 they still hadn't kicked in. I was confused because the first time i took them they hit me in like 30 minutes. I was bored, the people i was with were boring me, so some friends dropped by and picked me up, we were going to go to a friends house. The friend who ate the shrooms with me didnt come. So I was alone.

We get to the friends house. The shrooms still hadnt hit me. We get to his back porch, roll up a blunt, his porch is kind of trippy lots of colored lights and he was playing some old school ice cube, a good setting i figured everything seemed fine. We go out back to his trampoline around 11 and the shrooms hit me, i was tripping on the trampoline smoking the blunt trying to act normal like i wasnt on them, because i was the only one tripping, i didnt want to look like a dumbass, you know how shrooms are its hard to focus and talk. i couldnt stop touching my face, and i could feel my heart beating, it felt like it was going faster then usual.

We left the dudes house around midnight, went home, jammed, i wasnt tripping anymore it was the after stage. No colors or anything, everything is just weird. I still hadnt fully come down and i was starting to wonder what was happening. Time goes by and around 2:30 am im still wide awake, to pass the time me and my brother roll another blunt and smoke it to ourselves. He orders a pizza, i take one bite and gag from it. Eating clearly wasnt on my mind i guess. 3:30 and im still up, at this point i can feel my heart racing super fast, the thoughts that went through my mind that night i never want to think again. I still hadnt fully come down, i couldnt even remember what i did during the day that day. I was shaking, twitching convulsing, i was sweating like crazy in my air conditioned house in only boxers. every so often i would stop sweating and start to shiver. My skin was blotchy, and looking at myself in the mirror i felt like i didnt have full control. I couldnt stop moving, if i tried to relax the thoughts just went too fast and i couldnt keep my mind on any one thing. I didnt think i was going to come down.

I ended up sitting in my brothers bed wide awake, at one point i even shed tears because i didnt think i was going to make it. I told my brother not to let anybody drug test me if I died, because drug overdosing wasnt the way i wanted to die. He stayed up with me until 5 am talking to me because i was afraid that if i passed out i wouldnt wake up.

It was just a really bad night, i dont know what happend, was it anxiety, i dont think im allergic, i just want to know what happend, am i going to be ok doing them again? If i couldnt handle 3.5 grams i guess i shouldnt do more then that? Is it my body weight, im 6 feet tall 155, kinda skinny, not the biggest dude.

Any insight as to what happend to me would be nice, i was looking at this site while i was on the bad trip trying to find out what to do and i couldnt find anything.

thanks, any help is appreciated,

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Old 09-02-2008, 02:26 PM
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you just freaked out and stopped having fun. you got to go with things, not worry, and make up fun stuff in your head (because thats where everything is going on anyways). you should have gone for a walk and stopped worrying about when you were going to come down and stop thinking about what you did that day. just walked around and looked at stuff. I feel sure you would have come out of it and had a pleasant time.
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it sounds to me like you took the wrong shrooms, twitching, convulsing and blotchy skin are not side effects of magic mushrooms if any physical side effects came on they would likely be nausea dilated pupils and a sort of cold feeling not what you described
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they looked exactly like the shrooms i ate the first time though..
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Google "mushroom poisoning" and learn what the symptoms are...thats what you really need to be concerned about if your going to be ingesting mushrooms that were picked by someone looking to make a buck at your expense and doesn't give a shit if they accidently pick a single mushroom of the wrong variety as they roam a cowfield at night. Toxicity comes in 2 forms: muscarinic poisoning (amanita mushrooms) and then failure of your hepatic cytochrome p450 buffer system followed shortly thereafter by acute and fulminant hepatic (liver) failure. Make sure to google "liver failure" as I bet the results will convince you to never eat mushrooms again unless you picked them yourself! As far as your emotional response to your most recent "trip" don't sweat it if you didn't have any symptoms of poisoning.
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many mushrooms hold similar characteristics you have to be very careful. check gill colour, stalk colour, stalk strength, bruisings. my suggestion is to find someone who definatly knows what they are looking for not someone who just thinks/says they do and get them to take you hunting, once you know what to pick your laughing mate.
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I'm no shroom expert, but here is my advice (for what it is worth, which is nothing).

There is a chance you ate different shrooms from the first time, and were poisoned. But would think eating that much of bad mushrooms would do more then the symptoms you experienced. I think that you became anxious, and the drugs made that anxiety even stronger, and you experienced a powerful trip that made your emotions stronger. In this case the emotions were fear and anxiety instead of the emotions you experienced on your first trip (joy and exploration).

The problems probably started when you decided to try and "act normal" around your friends who were not tripping. That is when you first mentioned your heart starting to race. So I'd say you probably started being anxious because you were starting to trip balls and were trying to hide it. That just is not a good combination. The more you tripped, the more anxious you got. Not good. Not good at all.

You also may have just taken too much. Try taking the first amount you did, for your next trip. If you like it, go back up to the "bad" amount, but make sure to surround yourself only with people who will support your trip and who will not make you feel like you have to hide your trip. See how it goes.

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I'm no shroom expert, but here is my advice (for what it is worth, which is nothing).

There is a chance you ate different shrooms from the first time, and were poisoned. But would think eating that much of bad mushrooms would do more then the symptoms you experienced. I think that you became anxious, and the drugs made that anxiety even stronger, and you experienced a powerful trip that made your emotions stronger. In this case the emotions were fear and anxiety instead of the emotions you experienced on your first trip (joy and exploration).

The problems probably started when you decided to try and "act normal" around your friends who were not tripping. That is when you first mentioned your heart starting to race. So I'd say you probably started being anxious because you were starting to trip balls and were trying to hide it. That just is not a good combination. The more you tripped, the more anxious you got. Not good. Not good at all.

You also may have just taken too much. Try taking the first amount you did, for your next trip. If you like it, go back up to the "bad" amount, but make sure to surround yourself only with people who will support your trip and who will not make you feel like you have to hide your trip. See how it goes.

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exactly. it was pretty much just a bad trip dude.
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no. you FEAR the mushrooms now.
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Dude, you are fine. Towards the end you started letting the mushrooms take over. Plus you ate 3.5g ? (half quarter yeah?). First time for me I took 3.7ish g and here is my trip report.

Shroomery - Unconciousness and Death

Dying and the fear/acceptance is a normal part of a strong mushroom/LSD/mescaline/peyote trip. Read up about Ego Death. That is probably what you experienced and it is frightening when you can't grasp it during the trip.

You most likely ate normal cubensis mushrooms and just tripped balls. I literally went through the same thing, I thought I was going to die and this was the end I deserved for experimenting with drugs. Nor did I want to die of an overdose. Couple hours later, you pick up the pieces.

No worries man. Just be better prepared for your trip next time. It doesn't sound like a very fun scene to be tripping in which is probably what led to a bad trip. Sometimes I find that when you do hallucinogens you gotta dumb yourself down so you don't follow all your rabbit hole thoughts and end up in a bad place. Just flow with it.
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