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Evening,
That is an interesting story. I have not been able to do acid for the simple reason that it is incredibly hard to find where I live. Man that must have been very scary for that year. On another note To Kludge. I have three faults with your three problems. First off, how do you know that it isn't possible to trip for a whole year? As of yet we do not understand the human brain fully so all possibilities are still that, possible. On a psychotic episode the psychotic can hallucinate, amoung other things. is this not a trip as we know it? If so he could have been psychotic and have "tripped" for a year. I believe that what we look for in intoxication is a temporary psychosis, a temporary change in brain chemistry. Also non-believers can pray as praying does not have to be towards a god-like figure. You can pray to someone as somewhat of an entreaty i.e. "pray tell" means please tell. It all depends on context. This brings me to the third and final flaw. It is impossible to prove whether god does or does not exist. Some may have evidence for either side but, there is no PROOF (meaning truth). You may have not noticed it but the way in which you responded was harsh. Which, was the reason I decided to adress you. very interesting story jsn, -gonfishin |
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lol i wish i could trip for a year... when im tripping on acid i NEVER want that shit to end!! unfortunately it always does and I have to go back to real life.
good thing jesus brought u back to real life. if i were in your shoes though id be pretty upset my year long trip went away |
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Actually they are not faults, you just don't understand yet.
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And as I correctly stated you CAN have a psychotic break from using LSD but the LSD itself, the chemical, is not causing the problems. Your brain is broken now. It's like saying a nail caused a tire to be flat for a year. No, the nail caused the tire to go flat in the very beginning. The HOLE, aka your broken brain, is what is causing the tire to be flat, aka you hear voices. The phenomenon known as a "flashback" doesn't occur because there is some lone LSD hanging around in your fat cells for years. It happens because your brain learns how to "trip" on its own either from repeated use or from a massive dose. For instance I can make myself see very lightly bubbling walls, like when you first start tripping but not really strong, when I'm high just because my brain has learned how to do it. Quote:
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Are you sure you didn't have a hidden case of schizophrenia and that the LSD triggered it? I've heard that can happen. I'm also on the all natural drug boat (even though some natural things like datura will FUCK YOU UP). If you had such a bad experience with LSD I take it you would stay away from shrooms also (even though they are natural).
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So you speak for every single non believer in the world and throughout history huh? Good to know, lol when people "try" to sound intelligent on the internet its hilarious.
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i agree with livevibe. of course he wasn't tripping for a year, but the after effects of such a strong drug on such a young purpose and mentally scar fo real. haha it is all personal though, and i think those who don't agree with his spiritual can go f off, yoga, meditation, praying, all that shit is GOOD FOR YOU, whether or not there is a god. so seriously get a grip on your fucked up life and don't try to argue anyone into believing what you think.
my 2 cents. on a lighter not, JSN thank you for sharing that story! wow, that's amazing and i'm glad you finally broke emotional scarring, or whatever that is!! |
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"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." ~Hamlet~ Just because you cannot see something or scientifically prove its existance, does not mean it is not real or that you cannot believe in it. Last edited by WoldofWeedcraft; 08-27-2008 at 11:15 PM.. |
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And the fact that some belief is 'good for you' does not make the truth or falsehood of that belief irrelevant somehow. Truth matters. The beliefs people hold matter. The further a person's beliefs are from the actual state of reality, the more deluded that person is, by definition. That matters. If I find it comforting to believe that there are invisible fairies all around me, and it makes my life better, I am still delusional. This is dangerous. Maybe a 'fairy' belief seems harmless, but if a person is willing to suspend their critical reasoning just because some belief makes them warm and fuzzy inside, they're left wide open for all kinds of nonsense. The truth is, people don't believe in fairies, they believe things like 'The creator of the universe hates gays.' 'The creator of the universe hates infidels,' and so on. These aren't harmless beliefs. They manifest themselves in reality, they destroy lives. And if you can't see or prove something, yet you still think it's fine to believe in it, what criteria do you have for your beliefs? How susceptible are you to endless BS being fed to you by the media, government, priests and mullahs? 'Feeling good' is overrated, it's not the most important thing in the world. It certainly isn't enough to determine whether you believe in something or not.
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