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It only takes about .1ppm to begin to be toxic. I'm not saying it isn't a good thing, just that it aint really a good Idea in the house, without really venting it as well. Aside from the toxicity factor, it's flammable as hell. O3 is a WHOLE lot better an oxidixer, and more flammable, than is O2. AND a lot less stable. Even tho it degrades into O2 in about 30 min, you can get "spontaneous combustion" at concentrations of less than 10ppm. It certainly accellerates oxidation. It's probably not a good Idea to keep that in the attic, or under the house, simply for fires sake. In the presence of O3, a small spark can start a fire that will not go out as long as there is O3 present. I think Gibbster and Dr Dank are on the right track. If ya put the unit in the vent duct, and use a smaller cfm fan, I would think that along with killing the odor going out it would create negative pressure in the room keeping all odor inside the room. ![]()
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Dumb Q
Is an ozone generator basically the same thing as the ion air cleaners? Just in basic 'guts' /concept.
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This is good shit to know thats for sure,i was not aware of these things,i started reading up about negative health effects from ozone but once i knew enough to fit my situation i stopped digging for health related info,my grow op is not in my home.
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Think of air ionizers as static electricity(not really but best example I can give).... generally they produce negative charged gas that attaches themselves to particulate matter(in our case ODOR/bacteria) which happens to be positively charged. Bye bye odor The way I have understood Ozone generators to work may be incorrect but this is my take... They create O3... the third oxygen atom is unstable and tries to attach itself to bacteria/odor. Once it does that it causes it to oxidize leaving a single oxygen atom as a byproduct. -potlike |
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I was thinking about trying an in-line ion generator, either before or after an inline carbon filter. give it a try and see how effective it is.
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Whatever the science is behind it the stuff works on the spot,i just bought another rental home that had been foreclosed on & sat vacant for about a year,the home was musty as hell,one weekend with one of my larger generators & it smells like a new home.
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Thats pretty much exactly the reaction. The free radical O bonds (and burns) whatever it attaches to, with O2 (still a fire hazard) as a byproduct. At .1ppm, it (O3 ozone) will start to "oxidise" and burn nasal passages, alveoa in the lungs, give ya headaches, and all sorts of nasty shit. Thats why it is so damaging in some concentrations to plants. It will literally burn them up. Any ferrous metals that are oxidising when you introduce O3 will result in rapid acceleration of the oxidation process, which creates more heat, which will spiral out of control and result in the metal literally bursting into flame!!! I am gonna order one of those jewels to try it out, but its going to go in the duct going outside. Just don't let concentrations build up inside. Now I gotta figure out what kind of air flow it will handle and still remove odor. Good find. Hopefully, Grainger supply carrys them so I can get it local. Last edited by thelastpirate; 08-01-2008 at 02:47 PM.. |
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those things are bad for you, your animals and anything else in the house
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Yeah,thats why ive been telling people right from the start to vent them into an unlived in dump area, then vented outside .
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I live in a small 1 floor house, that has a roof with a fair bit of space inside (about half the volume of the house, and it is empty and vented).
You say it is safe to use an ozone generator in an 'unlived' space, does this include areas that are directly above 'lived' spaces? Basically the vent room sits directly on top of my whole house... but is empty and is vented. Safe? |
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