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Old 06-24-2008, 11:22 PM
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I don't think the cloning chamber needs any airflow. Just make sure that the temps in there dont get too high and you will be fine. keep us posted with the updates

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actually, i disagree on clones totally.

the way i do mine is i cut them in the conventional way (45 degree angle, knock off the lower two leaf nodes) and then scrape the side down at the bottom with my blade to expose the soft stuff inside and then i dip them in water and then the root tone powder... since i am growing in soil, i pop the clones into jiffy plugs. the jiffy's are in those teeny dixie cups to prevent them from being blown dry by the fan i have blowing across them to keep airflow going. i do NOT use a humidity dome anymore at all. i keep the jiffy's moist (NOT wet) and my clones work great. in fact, one i took the other day laid down as soon as i put it in the jiffy (guess i was way too rough with it... i actually thought i finally had an embolism ) but two days later it is standing tall with the rest of them.... as for lights, they are about 10 inches from the leaf tips to the bulbs... which are 3 13 watt CFLs 4 the 4 clones.

back in the day, i used to run a larger op and i dealt with so many clones i just couldnt be bothered to do things right and my way worked, so fuck it. when i got back into growing this time i was trying to do clones "right" and couldnt get them to take for shit. they all kept yellowing up and dropping dead except two... those two became a mother and the next crop that i am flowering now.... anyway, i read Al B Fuct's massive thread on his op and how he does his clones and i realized it was very similar to how i used to do mine with great success.... and there is no doubt that he has a serious clue... so, i tossed my humidity dome and all my "special" clone tricks and have been having great success and no worries with my clones... the only thing that causes my clones any sort of grief is that i have to remember to keep them moist

so, to sum up... yes, put a small fan on them... just enough to keep some airflow going and prevent gnats and to keep them in fresh air.... no humidity dome... no close lights... no BS... keep it simple!

one thing i have never used is a heating pad for the roots... i can see from my past experience and my current experience how it would help drastically, but really i think it would just help with speeding them along.... and i dont have the flower space to ever really be in a big hurry for clones. i am usually slowing them down

go read Al's thread on cloning.
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as for your reflective insides.... man, i HATE mylar. shit is always a pain to find, it screams: I GROW POT! and it sucks to work with.... oh, and it costs money!

white paint is almost as reflective and a lot cheaper and easier to work with so i am a big fan of that... as pointed out in your other thread though, these plastic grows suck to paint.... but i was thinking, you are already putting side panels in and will want to continue that to prevent your cab from glowing when the lights are on... what about that white paneling they make for bathrooms?

easy to find, cheap, easy to cut to fit and attach, clean up is easy and it is a low profile purchase item. you could probably get a 4'x8' sheet of that for under $20 and cut it to size and kill several birds with one stone.
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Or poly plastic, that stuff works great, is easy to work with, and is cheap. You can find it at any hydro store and while you are there you can pick up some good nutes.

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Just a little update after i got alittle more done.

Finshed lining the walls with foam, and added foam core over it. So Flowering chamber is all but done. I need to find a waterproof white material, thast very cheap and i can find at any store......would a painters woven drop cloth work?

The top/Flower/Clone chamber are all Airlocked with Ducttape on all meetings of plastic/foam.



Next is an upclose of the Clone chamber. As you can see the powerstrip up top, runs down the back inside the foamcore area with the carpet foam, and out the bottom. Will be Smell/Air sealed. I can eithe put an intake fan at the bottom area beside where the power cord comes in. I ran Speaker wire through the area to add the CPU fan later when i remove it from the Rubbermaid Box.



And lastly heres a picture of the top....Surgeprotector on right, Duct opening on the left, for a 4" AC duct to go into the fan, through the carbon filter, and into the ONA scrubber.

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Alright got a little more done. This is of the fan, 80mm cpu, to vent into the flowering and also add fresh air below the scrog when its added. Is connected with speaker wire.



This is the light trap, havn't tested to see how well it should work, but i can modify it if need be.



And got all walls covered with poster board, i still need to do the top, will do that after i figure up the hood tommorrow and finish the top.



I'm really hoping my girl can have a new home in the next day or two.
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right on, coming along nice! hope it holds up and works well for you
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The updates are looking great metal, keep up the good work man

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Thanks guys, hope it works as planned myself. Things are falling into place, gotta figure out how to finish the front doors though, and a better seal on the door hinge seem. I had the black rubber weatherstripping as seen in the last picture on the hinge part of the door, but it interferred with closing so i removed it. I figure i'll see how it does for light/smell then go from there and just line the front with paper.
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Well i got it somewhat finished, its up and working but i see problems.....i need better output ventilation, and more headroom for the HPS when i add it.....so i'm going to drop the shelf out, with Duct tape, zip ties i should be able to manage all wiring up top along with the surge protector tip tied to the side bracing.

My output at top is on the right side of the rear, so i'll turn the hood around and have the fan at the top, pointing out with a filter in between, and ducting to the hood at the top (as shallow as possible, i may make one out of aluminum/tin.

Anyway here is how it is now, problems....

1) existing scrog on plant is toooo high, and too much foilage for the box as it is......i took a clone to see if i can restart with a viable female.

2)hood is too low for HPS, and temp is high becaues of the small space, and low airflow, steady.

3) Lower temps, Ac went out yesterday had someone come fix it, no problems there with cover really, apt hit 93F, so today it had to get alot lower, cabinet was sitting at 88-90F last i looked before bed.

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