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Old 03-13-2008, 05:55 PM
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ok im thiking of setting up my first grow room in a 4x4 htg grow text with a 400 watt hps and 2 DWC's 6 plants( each with 20-30 gal res) each for a total of 12 plants. and having a few mum's (witch i will start from seeds) under flo lighting to take cutting's from. 4x4 2bulb flo's but im thinkin about cuttin down to 2x2. would that be a good idea?

i want to use a sog op for this and bulid the DWC's myself (i think i got the idea of how 2 build them but wanna be sure) but not really sure how to go about this. any advice?

is a 400watt hps eough light for a 4x4 grow tent? should i get more light? would DWC be good for sog op? could i grow more then 12 plants useing DWC in 4x4 grow tent? or by useing ebb & flow or something else in this size set up? if so how?

if u hav any experence with this plz help and thanks

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the 400watter should be fine.


have you already purchased the tent?
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no not yet but i was going to soon. should i go bigger?
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i dont think you should get the htg tent!

the tents are priced just as high as other quality tents. secret jardin dark rooms are the shit!
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I wouldnt use the 12 plant set up DWC with seeds.. Use clones if you can. Once you see males and remove them you have a root issue to deal with. You can do it but clones
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i dont have any clones so i have to start with seeds what would be wrong with the roots starting from seeds?
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I wouldnt use the 12 plant set up DWC with seeds.. Use clones if you can. Once you see males and remove them you have a root issue to deal with. You can do it but clones
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i was saying that i would use clones but i'll have to start mum's from seeds first. so would that be good for the (2) 6 plant DWC's? and do u think it'll be better if i go with more light like say 1000watt hps?
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If you can get a 600HPS, 400 is enough but 600 is better.

I am growing 8 plants DWC in a slitly smaller space than you. 90x70x200cm With a 400HPS, I will be getting a 600 to use in a slitly bigger space next time round.

I haven't finsihed my first grow yet so I can't tell you how I did, Just that it is going very well. DWC is great.
If you have 4x4 and you are growing from clones, you can probably fit more like 16 maybe more. Try and get two big 2x4 contaniers, remember you will need around 3 to 5gal per plant depending on how long you veg. For a SOG keep the veg time short and have lots of plants.

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how well do u think it'll go if i skip he 600 watt hps and jus go for a 1000 with 16 plants? i hear 1000watts is jus right for a 4x4 space. and what do you think about areoponice hydro systems? i was thinking of gettin (2) 8 plants systems instead of the DWC's and puttin them in a 4x4 grow tent as well( they would take up a 3x4 space side by side) im jus not sure if if they'd be worth the extra money but some one told me they where the best and hardest to use of all hydo's. any input on any of this would be a great help.
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ok im thiking of setting up my first grow room in a 4x4 htg grow text with a 400 watt hps and 2 DWC's 6 plants( each with 20-30 gal res) each for a total of 12 plants. and having a few mum's (witch i will start from seeds) under flo lighting to take cutting's from. 4x4 2bulb flo's but im thinkin about cuttin down to 2x2. would that be a good idea?

i want to use a sog op for this and bulid the DWC's myself (i think i got the idea of how 2 build them but wanna be sure) but not really sure how to go about this. any advice?

is a 400watt hps eough light for a 4x4 grow tent? should i get more light? would DWC be good for sog op? could i grow more then 12 plants useing DWC in 4x4 grow tent? or by useing ebb & flow or something else in this size set up? if so how?

if u hav any experence with this plz help and thanks

p.s

add any extra info u think that would be helpful and thanks again

If you are using a 4x4 space for all of your plants don't expect to keep mothers in with flowering clones. You will need a seperate space for the mothers to veg.

Hydroponics first time around?

Nah, go soil.. less of a headache for the first time.. Soil is much more forgiving.

I had a couple of buddies.. well I kinda found out about their grow due to poor security and they let me in on it.. as security.. and we ran the DWC under 1000w MH and HPS in a DWC using 6 plants.. I did better on my own with smaller lights and soil.. first time.

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how well do u think it'll go if i skip he 600 watt hps and jus go for a 1000 with 16 plants? i hear 1000watts is jus right for a 4x4 space. and what do you think about areoponice hydro systems? i was thinking of gettin (2) 8 plants systems instead of the DWC's and puttin them in a 4x4 grow tent as well( they would take up a 3x4 space side by side) im jus not sure if if they'd be worth the extra money but some one told me they where the best and hardest to use of all hydo's. any input on any of this would be a great help.

1000w; 150,000L = 150L/w
600w; 95,000 = 158.2L/w
400w; 55,000 = 137.5L/w

1000w = 37,500L/sq. ft. @ 24" above the canopy
600w = 42,222.2L/sq. ft. @ 18" above the canopy

400w = 24,444.4L/sq. ft. @ 18" above the canopy

Don't expect to use all of that 4x4 space.. take it in maybe 6" on each side.. that is your USABLE area.

Hydroponics, I think, is out of your league as a first-timer.. aeroponics for sure.. so much to go wrong.. so much to setup.. there is a post on here that a guy spent $3k in equipment and killed his whole crop.. well, several.

I'd go soil first.. feel things out.. soil is more forgiving.

But hey, there might be something I missed along the way.. so read around a bit and see if you can answer your questions.. oh, and go with the Dark Room.. the HTG tents aren't what they are cranked up to be.



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