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Old 05-10-2008, 10:22 AM
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Figuring out how many plants you can grow is not done by 'plants per light' so to speak, rather, you go by how big of an area your lighting can properly cover then decide how many plants you want to put in an area that size, i.e., more plants smaller or less plants bigger. (When your lighting can handle bigger plants that is, otherwise a big plant is pointless.)

A 400 watt can cover up to a 4 x 4 area although 3 x 3 would be more in line with optimum. A 150 watt covers almost nothing properly, perhaps a 1 x 1 foot space so you can imagine how many plants fit in a 1 x 1 space: 1. The 75 watt is near useless. You would need to start flowering at a very short height to ensure your light can handle the tripling in size your plant will certainly do in bloom - if not more with that light. The small plant size combined with poor lighting equals a pathetic yield, or in other words, a lot of work for very little. Incidentally, the same holds true for the 150. It cannot properly bloom a very tall plant, even 2 feet is pushing it, although the topmost part of the plant will at least give you something to smoke. For a finished height of 2 feet you need to start bloom before the plant(s) get to about 6 inches. (I strongly suspect your plants are going to more than triple though with such weak lighting, so keep it in mind when deciding when to flower.)

To optimize your lighting you should build a box of some sort and paint the insides flat white. (I would suggest mylar or another material but I am guessing cash may be an issue.) This will at least help the light you do have from 'escaping.'

If there is any way possible, you would do much better outdoors. I certainly wouldn't want to go through all that work for the little yield you can expect, but it appears people do it ... I guess you have to go with what you have, still, not for me thanks.
damn.. i thought 150 was good for flowering.. .. i just bought 2 150 hps lamps..
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Old 05-10-2008, 05:46 PM
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I think the guy who started this thread wanted to keep things small. Most of us who grow with CFL and low watt HPS are trying to be stealth. I agree that more light is better, but if you put a 400watt HPS in my cabinet you might as well bake cookies in it. My 150watt HPS with 92 watts of T5 side lighting gives me all I need for personal use and some for my friends. All contained in a space the size of a dresser. If you want to use 150watt HPS then go for it, but don't expect a shitload of bud. I got 1/2 ounce on my first try. I bet you can get alot more with 2 150watt HPS if you know what you are doing.
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I think the guy who started this thread wanted to keep things small. Most of us who grow with CFL and low watt HPS are trying to be stealth. I agree that more light is better, but if you put a 400watt HPS in my cabinet you might as well bake cookies in it. My 150watt HPS with 92 watts of T5 side lighting gives me all I need for personal use and some for my friends. All contained in a space the size of a dresser. If you want to use 150watt HPS then go for it, but don't expect a shitload of bud. I got 1/2 ounce on my first try. I bet you can get alot more with 2 150watt HPS if you know what you are doing.
2 150w hps would do great in a cab scrog......im only using one and so far im impressed with the growth....
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i have 2 under mine, one is just a clone,
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damn....how did that clone get such a fat stalk.....
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i dont know, its realy wide but it isnt round its flat, it is like 2 stems side by side...
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haahaaa....I see the stem shot from the middle and it looks normal........did you squish the top of the plant or something...
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I have a 75 and it does okay for a while but I'd say with two its okay but anything more and you want better.. it seems my small grow box will soon become a clone box.. kinda a future investment I made with my 75
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they need to come out with a 150w m/h conversion bulb........that would be the best thing to happen to stealth grow...imo
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you can veg fine with hps
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