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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Numsi View Post
    Yeah, my bad. The 400w MH take magnetic ballasts...the 1,000w MH are OK with electronic ballasts...I'm learning. Yes it's would be the dual/dimmable Lumatek. The digital day/night thermostat is cool!
    I don't see any intake fans on my list, just exhaust. Is that correct?
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    you are going to have to bring cool air into the rooms somehow. you aren't running an a/c in there so you will need cool air. with that much wattage passive intakes might not work; actually probably won't work. a lot depends on how hool the air is in the house that you are bringing in. you might end up needing a portable a/c for flower at least. hard to say without actually knowing the environment the rooms are in. i would count on 2 intake fans hooked up to those thermostat controllers. one for each room. hang the probe from the thermostat controller on the tops of your plants and plug the fans into them. they will turn the intake fans on when the room gets too hot. let the exhaust fans run 24/7 or put them on timers if you want. i would just let them run. for intake and exhaust fans 4" cheap fans are fine.

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    Nug,
    That looks like another $500-600 plus connections and electricity......
    http://www.bing.com/search?q=self-co...=1-39&sp=-1&sk=

    I think I'm pushing $3K for the two rooms......if all went well I'd recoup after the third harvest sells...if all goes well.
    I see the "original" Brother Numsi is on Game of thrones LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Numsi View Post
    Nug,
    That looks like another $500-600 plus connections and electricity......
    http://www.bing.com/search?q=self-co...=1-39&sp=-1&sk=

    I think I'm pushing $3K for the two rooms......if all went well I'd recoup after the third harvest sells...if all goes well.
    I see the "original" Brother Numsi is on Game of thrones LOL.
    yeah, it sucks. but unless you are in a very cold environment i don't see how you are going to cool those rooms without at least some sort of intake system. you sill might need an a/c anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuglets View Post
    to cover the 4 aeroponic systems you should get 2 600w lights or 2 1000w lights. 600w lights would be fine, 1000w lights would be optimal.
    Like I said money is tight, but do you think I could get away with 2 400w hps/mh conversion lights? or 1 600 w potentially? I would think that the 400's would be more optimal (in the money situation). I most definitely do plan on having 1000w's in the end...

    Quote Originally Posted by nuglets View Post
    128 clones is a ton. i can fit about 30 comfortably in one 10x20 cut tray. so 4 trays would be 20x40 which is an 8 lamp T5. mix the spectum up on the bulbs too. 5 grow and 3 bloom bulbs. or 6 and 2. more balanced spectrum.
    What sort of 10x20 trays are you talking about? ebb & flow? Are you growing to fully grown and harvesting from the 10x20? Or just having it setup to grow the clones initially? I ask this because if I can end up having more setups in a smaller area, it would produce more.. How big of rock wool cubes would you suggest? 1.5x1.5 or 2x2?

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    if you are just taking cuttings every 2 months or a perpetual with 64 a month you are gonna need 6 moms in my opinion. you could probably get away with 4 but that would be a lot of stress on them and you might now be getting the best cuttings after about 20-25. 6 moms at 2x2 for each one is a 6x4 space to cover. you could do it much more efficiently with MH lights. 2 400w MH lights would be idea. if power and money are an issue then you are gonna need 3 8 lamp T5 setups or 2 12 lamp setups. Quantum makes a 12 lamp setup.
    What did you mean by "you might now be getting the best cuttings after about 20-25"? Do you think you could make up like a general layout of what you think I should start with and possibly a beginning shopping list? I am getting ready to order some seeds in a few days, I'm thinking of a few strains from Nirvana.. AK-48, Northern Lights, White Widow, or Master Kush.. If you have any suggestions on strains to try out, please let me know, I'm trying to narrow it down to 2 high yielding strains that I can have that take around 6-8 weeks flowering period... Also, if its worth noting, we don't have any "brand name" strains around here, so I am definitely open to suggestions.. The seeds I just want fem, and it has to be around $40-50 per pack.

    I definitely plan on having a perpetual grow, I just have to get this first grow completed to be able to reinvest back into the grow and trying to start out with putting as little into it as possible, but it is definitely one where I do have lee way for finances, I just want to not use up everything and looking for a ball park figure of how much it would cost to include a mother, clone, and flowering room, so if you could let me know about what I am looking at that'd be awesome. Also for the aeroponic setup by DrGreenFinger that I am looking mostly at, its around $400 for 4 setups (without lights), so if you know of any other setups I could make that still have around/more for cheaper and still efficient, please let me know, I do not do soil though... Also I did find some lights on amazon I believe that were around $165 for some 400w conversion mh/hps so I may be leaning more that way for the lights, but how much would the lights run up the bill say for... 2 400w and a 8 bulb t5?

    What all should be on my initial list to purchase before I even start to germinate the seeds?

    I know lights, the system, timer(s), nutes, ph meter, rock wool, net pots, clay pellets, rooting compound... I do plan on having a fan and ducting for the hoods, but do you think that I could get away without for the first grow?

    What your stance on mylar and/or panda plastic? Do you think its needed or just a "perk"?

    I know that theres a lot of questions in here, if I have more, I'll just post after you let me know the answers to the above questions..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bsw9090 View Post
    Like I said money is tight, but do you think I could get away with 2 400w hps/mh conversion lights? or 1 600 w potentially? I would think that the 400's would be more optimal (in the money situation). I most definitely do plan on having 1000w's in the end...

    What sort of 10x20 trays are you talking about? ebb & flow? Are you growing to fully grown and harvesting from the 10x20? Or just having it setup to grow the clones initially? I ask this because if I can end up having more setups in a smaller area, it would produce more.. How big of rock wool cubes would you suggest? 1.5x1.5 or 2x2?

    What did you mean by "you might now be getting the best cuttings after about 20-25"? Do you think you could make up like a general layout of what you think I should start with and possibly a beginning shopping list? I am getting ready to order some seeds in a few days, I'm thinking of a few strains from Nirvana.. AK-48, Northern Lights, White Widow, or Master Kush.. If you have any suggestions on strains to try out, please let me know, I'm trying to narrow it down to 2 high yielding strains that I can have that take around 6-8 weeks flowering period...

    I definitely plan on having a perpetual grow, I just have to get this first grow completed to be able to reinvest back into the grow and trying to start out with putting as little into it as possible, but it is definitely one where I do have lee way for finances, I just want to not use up everything and looking for a ball park figure of how much it would cost to include a mother, clone, and flowering room, so if you could let me know about what I am looking at that'd be awesome. Also for the aeroponic setup by DrGreenFinger that I am looking mostly at, its around $400 for 4 setups, so if you know of any other setups I could make that still have around/more for cheaper and still efficient, please let me know, I do not do soil though...
    if money is tight but you can get a 240v outlet into the room then look at the Lumatek Dual 600w ballast. 1 ballasts controls 2 bulbs for the price of 1.5 ballasts. definitely worth it if you can get a 240v line in the room. here's a link. (http://www.plantlightinghydroponics....ts-p-2109.html). the other option would be a T5 lighting system. since this is for your clones that would be just fine. Quantum makes 4-16 lamps setups. their 16 lamp setup would be perfect for a 4x4 area. this is the route i would go if i were you since money seems to be an option. you can pick one up for about $340 and that includes the bulbs.

    they are called "cut trays" or "propogation trays." something like these (http://www.greners.com/i/seed-starti...y-10-x-20.html). get the ones without holes. then you get a 7" humidity dome (http://www.greners.com/i/seed-starti...reenhouse.html) for each tray; a heat mat (http://www.greners.com/i/seed-starti...at-2-tray.html) and a heat mat controller (http://www.greners.com/i/seed-starti...-heat-mat.html) for each heat mat. that heat mat will do 2 trays so you will only need 2 of them. there are others that do 1 tray so you would need 4. basically those are just for 1 week as you root your clone. as soon as they are rooted then you put them in the aeroponic system.

    20-25 clones is a lot to take off 1 plant every month. you might end up having to take some really small cuttings that may not root. that's why i think you will need 6 mothers. that way you can take clones off 3 moms every month and then give them 2 months to recover as you take clones off the other 3 the next month. or take cuttings off 2 moms every 2 weeks. not sure how you are setting up this perpetual.

    are you vegging and flowering in the aeroponic system?

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    anyone posting in here have an idea on how to set up 2 4x4 vertical scrogs in 2 4x4 tents? not sure if its considered a floorplan but its worth a try. lol. ive got a couple ideas in my head but am kinda stuck. here is the link to the thread im posting on. any help would be appreciated.

    help setting up 2 4x4 scrogs possibly vertical?
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    not me bro. i'm lost on those things

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheels619 View Post
    anyone posting in here have an idea on how to set up 2 4x4 vertical scrogs in 2 4x4 tents? not sure if its considered a floorplan but its worth a try. lol. ive got a couple ideas in my head but am kinda stuck. here is the link to the thread im posting on. any help would be appreciated.

    help setting up 2 4x4 scrogs possibly vertical?
    Might try here:
    http://www.rollitup.org/vertical-growing/

    Good luck!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Numsi View Post
    Might try here:
    http://www.rollitup.org/vertical-growing/

    Good luck!!
    thanks bro. repped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuglets View Post
    yeah, it sucks. but unless you are in a very cold environment i don't see how you are going to cool those rooms without at least some sort of intake system. you sill might need an a/c anyway.
    Nug,
    Money issue has resolved itself Can do pretty much what is needed. One friend has an LG portable A/C that may be drawing air from the attic, although that wouldn't make sense...maybe venting something there.....do you know of any that don't need to have the water emptied or is that a condition we have to live with? + repped
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