Call me a concerned parent but can i get the same buds from a 150 watt hps over a 250 per se. ? I mean technically, and im not talking quality, not quantity, cause i imagine in my head that a 250 watter packs a punch with its larger lumen output right? So would that like make healthier, denser ect. bud develop ment? Than may i ask what youd prefer, a 250 watt hps or a 150 watt combo of 2(300 watts)? Get what im saying?

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damn im high im tallking quality not quantity^^

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If you can do a combo go for 1 hps and 1 mh

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Sure - if you can manage the heat issues a smaller bulb at closer distance should get the same results as a larger one further away. Light intensity diminishes rapidly with distance

I'm running 2 - 150s right now and have been really happy with my results - take a look at my signature grow and see what I mean...

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You brought up a good point about light intensity diminishing with distance,,, but them what if both lights were the both right on the buds, with a cool tube design such as the couple you got going yourself, cool to the touch. This is what im wondering. Like can plants use all the additional lumens it can get to bud development or is there a platue after a certain amount of lumens with potency and the works?ahhh

Sticky buds, let me ask you this, why not a 250 w for that system? I imagine that would be prime.

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You can only get rid of the heat to a point. There is still a substantial amount of infrared heat given off by the bulb - this also falls of with distance. I think with the higher wattage bulbs, theres a limit to how close they can get even with cool tubes.
As to diminishing returns - yeah I'm sure there is a point where the plant is getting all the lumens it can use and the rest gets wasted. Don't know what that level is though...

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Ive heard of 400 watt systems that was cool to the toch(cool tub outer glass) so i imagine you could with a high cfm fan.

but why not a 250 watt for that sytem? Just had a couple of 150's laying around or what?

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It's a total DIY - 150s were all I could get.
But I'm happy with it. meets my needs and then some.

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Edit: Quality is what im intrested in.

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I found that i got more bud in the same time with more light but i did NOT notice any difference in quality.

Check out my grow My third time around with 600 watt hps