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    Quote Originally Posted by chasmtz View Post
    im trying to do a perpetual but on a larger scale yet not cropping as often in order to keep my #'s down and stay legal to my card. I'm trying to crop 12 plants every 2 months, while vegging for 2 months, 4 months total. I like your setup. What Im saying is that you are already doing a seriously good job with your space and it sounds as if you couldnt do any better. A homemade CO2 bottle could be made from a small bottle that might help increase yields though
    If you wanna harvest 12 plants every two months while keeping the setup perpetual its almost impossible because while the 12 plants are flowering you would need 12 more plants that are in veg at the same time, so when the plants in flower finish the ones from veg would replace them. You could however grow a mother in a 4ftx4ftx7ft veg tent then take 6 cuttings from her and leave them veg for 2 months right next to the mother for a total of 7 plants in veg then after the 2 months are up put the 6 clones in flower then take 6 more cuttings from the mother and let them veg for 2 months this will give you a total of 13 plants (one being your mother) letting you crop 6 plants every two months but with a total of 12 plants being allowed to grow at once thats the best your really gonna get and thats even one more plant than you are allowed since the mother makes 13.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSlayer420 View Post
    Hello everyone, I have been watching DrBudgreengenes for quite some time now and many other grows from this site as well as many others. When I first started out I had no clue what to do, so many people were growing so many different ways it was simply impossible to keep up with them all. So I took the knowledge I have gained over the years and came up with a setup that gives me a little over 4 Oz's every week. Before I could start I had to piece together what materials I would need, and these are the main things I thought of being the most essential in a grow op.

    Bud Dryer - Most people take this for granted but it is the most important part of the process, if you screw this up your crop is a waste of time. It should be completely dark and have good airflow to avoid mold and other issues with heat.

    Veg Room - I will need this space for my mothers and for rooting her clones. Each clone will take 6-7 days to root and then be placed in the flower chamber.

    Flower Room - I will need this space to put the clones in when they have finished rooting in the veg room.

    How it works? - I bought 6 Feminized Serious seeds White Russian from The Attitude a while back and planted 2 of the seeds each in a 4 Gal black square pot with FoxFarm Ocean Forest Soil (2 cup soil to 1 cup perlite mix). The mothers were vegged for 1 month so I had 2 beautiful bushy moms (Mom A and Mom B) to take healthy cuttings from. I started the process by taking 8 4" cuttings from Mom A that were dipped in root powder and placed in green 1 liter bottles with the same soil mix as the mothers, and left in the veg room for 6-7 days to root. Once those 8 4" clones have rooted they are placed in the flower chamber. Now Mom A has had a week to recover from her first cutting but she still needs time to heal and grow, so now we take 8 4" cuttings from Mom B and again dip them in root powder and leave in the veg room for 6-7 days to start a good root system. Once these clones have rooted they are placed in the flower chamber and now Mom A has had 2 full weeks to fill up with new growth and is ready for her 8 4" cuttings again. My flower room (when full) has nine 1liter bottles across the front and is eight 1liter bottles deep making a total of 72 plants in a 2ft x 2ft space. The nine 1Liter bottles across the front of the cabinet symbolize the 9 weeks of flowering that is required for Serious seeds White Russian (which is right around 63 days or 9 weeks). When I first started it took 9 weeks to fill the whole cabinet up since I was only adding 8 cuttings every 7 days. Once the ninth week was up the first 8 cuttings I put in were now 9 weeks old and ready for harvest so they are pulled and placed in the top bud dryer which is completely dark with nice airflow. With a 600w HPS I yield from 14-21 grams dry from each plant. So if im pulling 8 every 7 days lets just say I only get 14 per plant thats still 4 Oz. Most of the time the 8 clones I pull give me a little over 5 Oz but sometimes little under 5 Oz. Just depends on things like me replacing my bulbs within adequate time and keeping the lights as close as possible without burning, temps, airflow, ect. I have included a pic of my grow cabinet at bottom. I used two of the shelves to seperate the veg from flower and two more of the shelves to seperate the bud dryer from the veg and flower. My cabinet is 2ft Deep x 4ft wide x 6ft tall that leaves 2ft deep x 2ft width x 4ft tall for veg and flower rooms and 2ft deep x 4ft width x 2ft tall bud dryer. My veg and flower lights are aircooled, cool air is brought in by a port in the bottom of each room and pushed out through a port at the top of each room this insure a perfect draft of airflow. Tell me if you guys see any ways I can improve this to yield more. I think a big reason why yields are so good with this is because I am literally using every square inch of my 2x2 ft space for budsite growth. And since I only put 8 clones in every 7 days the plants are all in different steps of flowering so some are only at the explosive growth step and some are at the bud develpment stage and others are at the stage where the buds just swell some havnt even shown sex yet. We all know light spectrum and plants use different spectrums for different stages of flowering just like they do in veg growth. I think that because only the plants in weeks 4-9 are going to be using the 600w for bud growth meaning they will get more use of the light on those plants than if all the plants in my box were at the bud growth stage. let me hear your guys ideas to maybe make this grow even better all input is appreciated. Good smoking to ya fellas!!!

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    Oooh I got it.!. Maybe its 2x2x30 With alot of shelves and a bigass ladder in a corner of a warehouse.
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    Have you guys ever seen Drbudgreengenes? I have watched him a lot and don't understand why it is so hard to believe, when he first started he was using 20oz soda bottles that were cut down to 16oz. He was growing 27 at a time in a small small cabinet and using cfl lights. He yielded anywhere from 7-21 grams per plant. He put 3 in flowering every week for 9 straight weeks. 3x9=27 plants. Even if he got 7 grams per plant thats still 21 grams every week now my bottles are 1 liter soda bottles but when I trim the tops off they are about 26 ounces. Since my bottles are bigger it makes sense I get more than 7 grams per plant because my plants have more room to grow since my bottles are taller and little wider (not by much at all though). I get about 14-21 grams per plant so in i got 8 in a row and 9 rows thats 72 plants total and i get about 14 per plant so every 2 plants is about an ounce of dry so 8/2=4 oz's for every 8 I pull its sometimes even little higher. Am i missing something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSlayer420 View Post
    Have you guys ever seen Drbudgreengenes? I have watched him a lot and don't understand why it is so hard to believe, when he first started he was using 20oz soda bottles that were cut down to 16oz. He was growing 27 at a time in a small small cabinet and using cfl lights. He yielded anywhere from 7-21 grams per plant. He put 3 in flowering every week for 9 straight weeks. 3x9=27 plants. Even if he got 7 grams per plant thats still 21 grams every week now my bottles are 1 liter soda bottles but when I trim the tops off they are about 26 ounces. Since my bottles are bigger it makes sense I get more than 7 grams per plant because my plants have more room to grow since my bottles are taller and little wider (not by much at all though). I get about 14-21 grams per plant so in i got 8 in a row and 9 rows thats 72 plants total and i get about 14 per plant so every 2 plants is about an ounce of dry so 8/2=4 oz's for every 8 I pull its sometimes even little higher. Am i missing something?
    lol great well first your not him and second this is more of a dilemma of u fitting 72 plants ina 2x2 area lol i ran a SOG for 2 years and can fit 37 plants in a 2x5 big foot tray and your gonna tell me you stuff 72 in there LOL bullshit
    If this is even true this must look like the biggest cluster fuck in the world
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    72 party cups in flower would be a Bitch in 2v2. Lmao... How would you water the ones in the back? wouldn't fit & the canopy would be so intermangled.
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    Drbudgreengenes even upscaled his grow by doing 144 plants in 2 cabinets thats 72 plants per cabinet still using cfl lights and continued to get the same yields (though he did add more lights obviously since he was doing more plants). Have you guys ever grown a strong genetic strain such as Serious seeds white russian? Their stuff is no joke they grow huge ass colas, and since all my plants are clones from 2 moms with the same phenos all my plants are the same. I trim or lollipop all my clones at week 3 of flowering this causes all of the energy from my babies to shoot to the center colas. When my plants are ready for harvest the colas are so big but the plants are sometimes not even a foot tall. And when you grow like this, the only bud you get is the main cola buds which is the best smoke in my honest opinion since most energy in cannabis is focused on the main stalk from the get go. What did you guys think a 24oz bottle would yield in bud? from the looks of it it sounds like its not common for someone to get 7 grams from a small plant in even a 16oz bottle with no side branching just one top main cola. When i say no side branching I mean ALL SIDE BRANCHING IS TRIMMED. So all my plants look like little lollipop suckers the colas are about 5-6 inches tall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSlayer420 View Post
    Drbudgreengenes even upscaled his grow by doing 144 plants in 2 cabinets thats 72 plants per cabinet still using cfl lights and continued to get the same yields (though he did add more lights obviously since he was doing more plants). Have you guys ever grown a strong genetic strain such as Serious seeds white russian? Their stuff is no joke they grow huge ass colas, and since all my plants are clones from 2 moms with the same phenos all my plants are the same. I trim or lollipop all my clones at week 3 of flowering this causes all of the energy from my babies to shoot to the center colas. When my plants are ready for harvest the colas are so big but the plants are sometimes not even a foot tall. And when you grow like this, the only bud you get is the main cola buds which is the best smoke in my honest opinion since most energy in cannabis is focused on the main stalk from the get go. What did you guys think a 24oz bottle would yield in bud? from the looks of it it sounds like its not common for someone to get 7 grams from a small plant in even a 16oz bottle with no side branching just one top main cola. When i say no side branching I mean ALL SIDE BRANCHING IS TRIMMED. So all my plants look like little lollipop suckers the colas are about 5-6 inches tall.
    Yes you talking about a S.O.G Sea Of Green lol and once again you are NOT Dr.budgreengenes. So uhh yea lol PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
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