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Old 06-01-2009, 12:25 AM
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Default Electrical help needed for running 24O to room
Thanks for taking the time to read this...

I am having my buddy whos fairly decent at electrical work come over tomorow to set me up a subpanel and 24ov so i may run 6 x 1ooo wtts in my garden.

My main panel is 1oo amps as far as i can tell,{ i figured id need 3o amps for the 6 lights
and 2o amps for the 24kbtu a/c i want to put in there.}
So if i could get 55 or 6o amps dedicated,that would be great!! I dont run to many other appliences just fridge.

My friend comming tomorow has not wired a grow room but other semi commercial jobs.

I want above all to have safe setup and im unsure of my buddies plans...
He said he has 1oo ft of #8 and flex he has in his garage we can use { Would this be ideal?}

I have a homedepot card with plenty of room that i can use and pay later so this is great as cash wise im tapped.

I want to have a nice clean panel like the one in the pic
What ideally should i use to do this?
or what would i need to buy?

If you can also explain the jist of how it is put together i can share it with him tomorow
and he can have a roadmap to success

Thanks you so uch for reading/responding you are truely kind for doing so,Cheers HBR
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Thanks for taking the time to read this...

I am having my buddy whos fairly decent at electrical work come over tomorow to set me up a subpanel and 24ov so i may run 6 x 1ooo wtts in my garden.

My main panel is 1oo amps as far as i can tell,{ i figured id need 3o amps for the 6 lights
and 2o amps for the 24kbtu a/c i want to put in there.}
So if i could get 55 or 6o amps dedicated,that would be great!! I dont run to many other appliences just fridge.

My friend comming tomorow has not wired a grow room but other semi commercial jobs.

I want above all to have safe setup and im unsure of my buddies plans...
He said he has 1oo ft of #8 and flex he has in his garage we can use { Would this be ideal?}

I have a homedepot card with plenty of room that i can use and pay later so this is great as cash wise im tapped.

I want to have a nice clean panel like the one in the pic
What ideally should i use to do this?
or what would i need to buy?

If you can also explain the jist of how it is put together i can share it with him tomorow
and he can have a roadmap to success

Thanks you so uch for reading/responding you are truely kind for doing so,Cheers HBR
You might want to post a question like this in the Bricktown73 thread he is an electrician and can give you specifics on what you are needing.

My first thoughts are that if you have a 100 amp panel for your house as a whole you are going to need to upgrade the panel to at least 150 but better 200 amp to run that kind of a setup. If you are pulling close to the max your house will allow all the time your wires will get real hot!! After you have your electric upgraded all you need to do is supply 240 to your lighting controller. Also run some dedicated 120 outlets for your other electrical needs in the room. You could also run your a/c on 240 that will save you a lot. I hope this helps

edit: I forgot to add that if you upgrade your panel make sure you upgrade your riser wires that connect to the electric company. Remember electric is kind of like the flow of water, keep the flow as wide as possible till it is where it is needed.
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Old 06-01-2009, 01:06 AM
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Thanks for the help Abell,yes actually this thread is a copy of a pm I sent Bricktown,I just wanted to have some kind of back up info incase i didnt hear back from him intime.
Bricktowns work is amazing!
What is involved in upgrading my main panel/service?
Is it just the panel or do i need to call pge and have them do somthing to increase my panel.

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Thanks for the help Abell,yes actually this thread is a copy of a pm I sent Bricktown,I just wanted to have some kind of back up info incase i didnt hear back from him intime.
Bricktowns work is amazing!
What is involved in upgrading my main panel/service?
Is it just the panel or do i need to call pge and have them do somthing to increase my panel.

Cheers
It usually means getting a new panel (square D) and the breakers to outfit it. If you go to home depot you will see different setups in the electircal dept. they have like 150, 200, 250 and so forth. They come with some breakers of different sizes but you can pick up exactly what breakers you need for your setup. The electric company shouldn't need to be involved, I am speaking from the American view point though. I am not sure about other countries electric. Make sure you upgrade your wires connecting to the elec. company, very important. To give you an idea when I upgraded a service from 150 to 250 I had an electrician do it and it cost like $1200 with the wiring to my room. I hope this helps
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Great info abell!,
12oo is a bit out my range for the time being,but i really only need to get supplies,my buddy said hed do the work for free,but i would still like to give him somthing.
What is the ideal wire to run from pge to main panel,and from main panel to subpaanel in flowerroom?
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Great info abell!,
12oo is a bit out my range for the time being,but i really only need to get supplies,my buddy said hed do the work for free,but i would still like to give him somthing.
What is the ideal wire to run from pge to main panel,and from main panel to subpaanel in flowerroom?

The 8 is fine to the flowering room for sure! The wire from the electric company to paneal is big, real fat and multi-stranded (poss. like 2 or 3). I am not sure of gauge I think it is more rated in voltage, an electrician should have more info on that part of it. If your friend is doing labor for free it will be a lot less than what I said the parts aren't all that much.

It is def good to be over-rated on power this keeps wires cool when you are pulling major power from HID and such and you never have to worry about fires when running a lot of lights.
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thanks so much for all your help bro,ill let you know how things go tomorow,cheers
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thanks so much for all your help bro,ill let you know how things go tomorow,cheers
No probs!! Good luck and yes please let me know how it all worked out.
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crazy, I just ran my feeder cable for my panel (which is also 240V) yesterday, I did myself a big favour and buy the home depot book "WIRING 1-2-3" it's awesome, it's all to do w/ household wiring but I think it gives ya all the basics ya need to do most things, including wire a grow room. An electrician buddy that I used to work with told me to buy it, (and he wires commercial grows on the side). Everything is in there including running a subpanel etc.. PM me if ya want to know more of how I did it, gotta go to work right now....
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I got Hd wirrng 123,!
Im gona do some reading tonight,
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