Alright people, Rug from england here, i,m using a 730w LG sulphur plasma to grow at the mo, its 6000k which you'll know is pretty close to the sun, cost me a bomb but it'll be worth it, if anyone is interested i'll post pics laters, also is anyone else out there using them as i want to compare etc.
Sulphur Plasma
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lol was googeling and i found this thread
yes please im really interested in these light
how much do they cost
all the info u could give would be really apreciated
like how far from the plants it must be
i heard it doesnt give almost nothing as heat but u have to keep it far away
how much lumens
everything ;p
mistaphuck
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i looked one up it said it was 56,000 lumens and 700 watts thats weak considering that my 40 watt hps is 55,000 lumens, it doesnt seem as efficient as the site said it was
the lumens isnt as important as some people think its only a measure of how strong the light is to the human eye,anyway ive kept some big buds under 400w cfls and they look far less dense than the 1''s under the plasma also the plasma 1's produce alot less leaf and stalk it promotes alot more bud, the penetration is really good through to the bottom of the plant, it cost me around £800 for a 730w but the light output is the equivelant to four 400w hid's, plus the bulb lasts 10 years and only depreciates 5% in the first 20 mins of its life and so it stays at 95% effectiveness throughout therefor saving you around £120 a year on bulbs avg. loads of electricity a massive difference in the bill.........you keep the light the same as you would a HID, 1 light covers a 9ft circle, it puts out about the equivelant heat of 2 cfl's which is nothing, the 1 i have is 6000k very similar to the sun budding resonds very well and the best thing is no stretching occurs , the 1 i have is a 90 degree angle but u can get 120 i rate these very highly and so does my mate who is very experinced has been growing for over 20 years, the noise is 36'd' , it weighs 19k and is the size of a 17 inch crt tv, i will post some pics tomoz to show you the difference
Contrary to common belief spectrum isn't the overiding factor when it comes to getting good bud formation. Yes it has to have the correct wavelenghts to achieve that, which is why halogen doesn't work as it is a monochromatic light source, but intensity gives it the punch to get good colas all the way down the plant. When you force flower plants in the early summer outdoor the results are just as good, if not better, than when the wavelength has changed later in the season, despite the light being bluer. About 30- 35% of the light output from these lights is in the red and orange spectrum, which coupled with the intensity is more than sufficient for good cola production. if you are burning 800w of the so called energy efficient compact flourescents get rid of the pathetic things and see the difference a sp will make.
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Mr.Ganja
Mr. Ganja Ha ha, you speak from experience of both do you. There is a lot of rubbish surrounding these circulating on the net, all of which has been written by people with little to no hands on experience of what they are spouting on about. Alot of the available information was written years ago before R&D into commercial systems had been carried out. These are actually sold as Quasi- Suns, and are the closest thing to natural light available. I agree with what you are saying about sodium being a fantastic source of light, yes, sp can be improved upon as regards spectral outputs available presently,and per square foot probably do produce about 10% more bud, but the point I am trying to get across is that burning one of these lights will cover an area that four 400w sodiums will cover with similar yeilds for less than half the electrical running costs and less replacement costs over the lifetime of the lamp ( assuming Babylon doesn't take your little girls away). They also produce far less IR than standard hid's making them harder for the eye in the sky to see them. Plants have been growing under natural light for millions of years and are pre-condition to the wavelengths sp provide, this should allow the propogation of strains indoor that until now have only been available to the outdoor grower.
Mr.Ganja
Mr. Ganja Ha ha, you speak from experience of both do you. There is a lot of rubbish surrounding these circulating on the net, all of which has been written by people with little to no hands on experience of what they are spouting on about. Alot of the available information was written years ago before R&D into commercial systems had been carried out. These are actually sold as Quasi- Suns, and are the closest thing to natural light available. I agree with what you are saying about sodium being a fantastic source of light, yes, sp can be improved upon as regards spectral outputs available presently,and per square foot probably do produce about 10% more bud, but the point I am trying to get across is that burning one of these lights will cover an area that four 400w sodiums will cover with similar yeilds for less than half the electrical running costs and less replacement costs over the lifetime of the lamp ( assuming Babylon doesn't take your little girls away). They also produce far less IR than standard hid's making them harder for the eye in the sky to see them. Plants have been growing under natural light for millions of years and are pre-condition to the wavelengths sp provide, this should allow the propogation of strains indoor that until now have only been available to the outdoor grower.
mistaphuck
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thats kinda expensive for not a whole bnche more preformance, so far the only thing anyones said about them that peaked my interest was the ten year lifespan
i dont know where in the hell u've read that a sulphur plasma gives 50k lumens......since 1 sulphur plasma 1300w gives 500k lumens
this thing beats any light from far aways the ratio of uv,ir/visible light is something around 20%/80% only light that beats in terms of visible light is the hps lights but as soon as u use a cooltube or water cooltube the ratio of uv,ir/visible light diminishes A LOT
so in conclusion having this sulphur plasma light wont cost you another 1k for ur venting system
this thing beats any light from far aways the ratio of uv,ir/visible light is something around 20%/80% only light that beats in terms of visible light is the hps lights but as soon as u use a cooltube or water cooltube the ratio of uv,ir/visible light diminishes A LOT
so in conclusion having this sulphur plasma light wont cost you another 1k for ur venting system
this light should be used more for an hydro system since it has so much blue and keep ur plants more bushier it cant even compare to an MH light since that light gives 50%/50% of uv,ir/visible light ratio
one thing that sux with this sulphur plasma is that it doesnt give a lot of uv's the 20% of uv,ir is more IR and almost nothing as uv
one thing that sux with this sulphur plasma is that it doesnt give a lot of uv's the 20% of uv,ir is more IR and almost nothing as uv
that was nt me by the way
Where on Earth did you get the idea that plants utilize UV? I think you need to do a little more research upon this before you start perputating false information. Let me elucidate further.
UVC 200-220nm Highly toxic to both plants and people. this cause cellular damage thereby encouraging the creation of carcinogenic free radicals. If you want cancer as an added side effect to getting stoned then you are on the right path.
UVB Also harmful to plants and humans. This has been proven to cause colour fading within the plant, which thereby hampers the chemical reactions of both chlorophil A & B.
UVA Neither harmful or beneficial to plants.
By reducing UV you are lowering the chances of tissue damage and eye damage whilst working under your lights. I shall post pictures of my plants in the next few days for those thatv are interested. If 30 or so branches on a plant that is about two and a half feet tall is not bushy then I don't know what is.
I am under the impression that you are warey of any new technology, that is your perogative, personnally speaking any light source that allows me to grow plants very effectivly in an area of apprx. 100sq. feet using only 700w of power and practically invisible to the spy in the sky is long overdue.