Forum Shop Market
Seeds FAQ Tools
SEE OUR MARIJUANA SEED GUIDE FOR THE BEST STRAINS
Looking for Legal Marijuana look no further!
  #1    
Old 10-28-2008, 10:42 AM
HAZEOHOLIC's Avatar
Able To Roll A Joint
Able to roll a joint
HAZEOHOLIC is online now
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 85
HAZEOHOLIC is on a distinguished road
Points: 1,294, Level: 5 Points: 1,294, Level: 5 Points: 1,294, Level: 5
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Default Negative static pressure
Hello everyone have a question on negative pressure.
I have currently a closet that is 2'W x 2'D x 7.5'H I went to the local hydro store pick up a 6" axial fan made a hole behind the closet almost at the bottom. place the 6" fan there as an intake now I already had a 150CFM 4" centrifugal exhaust fan plus 4" carbon filter rated for 200CFM will I achieve the negative pressure that i want for smell?
Thanks for the advice people.
Reply With Quote
  #2    
Old 10-28-2008, 10:44 AM
GrowTech's Avatar
stays relevant.
Mr. Ganja
GrowTech is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Cannafornia
Posts: 7,844
GrowTech has a reputation beyond reputeGrowTech has a reputation beyond reputeGrowTech has a reputation beyond reputeGrowTech has a reputation beyond reputeGrowTech has a reputation beyond reputeGrowTech has a reputation beyond reputeGrowTech has a reputation beyond reputeGrowTech has a reputation beyond reputeGrowTech has a reputation beyond reputeGrowTech has a reputation beyond reputeGrowTech has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 42,524, Level: 29 Points: 42,524, Level: 29 Points: 42,524, Level: 29
Activity: 10% Activity: 10% Activity: 10%
You need a higher exhaust speed than inlet speed.

170CFM exhaust.
70CFM inlet.

^Would work
__________________
speaks louder than words.
Problems on the forum? Contact me here!

Reply With Quote
  #3    
Old 10-28-2008, 10:48 AM
Super Stoner
Mr. Ganja
Seamaiden is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: In the forest.
Posts: 7,600
Seamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant future
Points: 19,200, Level: 20 Points: 19,200, Level: 20 Points: 19,200, Level: 20
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Why do you need to push air as well as pull it, GT? Negative pressure, if intake is sufficient, will allow the air in just fine.

If my math is right, total volume is approximately 30'cu. If he were to turn over about 3x total volume/minute, then he'd have LOTS of negative pressure going on, no need to push that with another fan (more electricity + waste heat, too). Just be sure that intake is sufficient or you'll get noise. 170cfm is easily 3x turnover.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #4    
Old 10-28-2008, 11:14 AM
HAZEOHOLIC's Avatar
Able To Roll A Joint
Able to roll a joint
HAZEOHOLIC is online now
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 85
HAZEOHOLIC is on a distinguished road
Points: 1,294, Level: 5 Points: 1,294, Level: 5 Points: 1,294, Level: 5
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Quote:
Originally Posted by GrowTech View Post
You need a higher exhaust speed than inlet speed.

170CFM exhaust.
70CFM inlet.

^Would work
I really don't know what CFM the 6" axial fan is it doesn't say but i think it has to be a little more then 200CFM that sucker blows. Also I notice that the carbon filter when on the exhaust fan it slows ithe fan down quict abit. I have the filter so that the exhuast fan suck out of the filter throught the ducts and out on top of the closet clean.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamaiden View Post
Why do you need to push air as well as pull it, GT? Negative pressure, if intake is sufficient, will allow the air in just fine.

If my math is right, total volume is approximately 30'cu. If he were to turn over about 3x total volume/minute, then he'd have LOTS of negative pressure going on, no need to push that with another fan (more electricity + waste heat, too). Just be sure that intake is sufficient or you'll get noise. 170cfm is easily 3x turnover.
I know that passive intakes just takes for a opening or open door for air to come in but if I made a hole in the bottom of the closet with no fan blowing into it won't smell come out that hole if left exposed?
Reply With Quote
  #5    
Old 10-28-2008, 11:16 AM
Super Stoner
Mr. Ganja
Seamaiden is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: In the forest.
Posts: 7,600
Seamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant future
Points: 19,200, Level: 20 Points: 19,200, Level: 20 Points: 19,200, Level: 20
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
No, not if the fan is moving air out of the room in sufficient volume, otherwise there wouldn't be negative pressure. Try pushing the air through the filter instead of pulling it through.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #6    
Old 10-28-2008, 11:38 AM
HAZEOHOLIC's Avatar
Able To Roll A Joint
Able to roll a joint
HAZEOHOLIC is online now
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 85
HAZEOHOLIC is on a distinguished road
Points: 1,294, Level: 5 Points: 1,294, Level: 5 Points: 1,294, Level: 5
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamaiden View Post
No, not if the fan is moving air out of the room in sufficient volume, otherwise there wouldn't be negative pressure. Try pushing the air through the filter instead of pulling it through.
you mean having the exhaust fan sucking up all the air in the closet., and into the filter? If that's the case then once the air travels into the filter where does the filter air goes if the carbon filter is in the closet.?
cause the carbon filter is caped on one end one way is locating the filter outside the closet. but the reason it's inside is to hide it from being seen
Reply With Quote
  #7    
Old 10-28-2008, 11:43 AM
Super Stoner
Mr. Ganja
Seamaiden is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: In the forest.
Posts: 7,600
Seamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant future
Points: 19,200, Level: 20 Points: 19,200, Level: 20 Points: 19,200, Level: 20
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
What? Um... yeah.. I think. What I mean is like this.. Grow box/room --> exhaust fan --> filter.

Just put the filter in line with the fan, but have the fan push the air through the filter, don't try to have it pull the air through the filter and then the fan itself. If no air goes through the filter, then how does it work? Where does the exhaust ultimately end up? Every set-up I've seen has duct work in which a filter could easily be placed, so I guess I'm not quite understanding what you've got going on there.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #8    
Old 10-28-2008, 07:08 PM
JordanTheGreat's Avatar
420 TIME
Stoner
JordanTheGreat is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: West Bay,Weed Mecca(CA)
Posts: 494
JordanTheGreat will become famous soon enough
Points: 5,901, Level: 11 Points: 5,901, Level: 11 Points: 5,901, Level: 11
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
it really depends on the type of fan that you are operating...axial fans dont have a lot of back pressure so having them pull air through a scrubber would be pointless. an inline fan would pull the air better through the scrubber and in this case the clean exhaust would be ducted outside of the tent/closet/cab. if sufficient negative pressure is attained within your grow enclosure than no air would ever be able to escape the passive intakes because they are always drawing air into the tent to be cleaned.
__________________
used to crumble up my weed and hit it in foil, now it's illadelph glass wid a glycerine coil
Reply With Quote
  #9    
Old 10-28-2008, 07:12 PM
JordanTheGreat's Avatar
420 TIME
Stoner
JordanTheGreat is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: West Bay,Weed Mecca(CA)
Posts: 494
JordanTheGreat will become famous soon enough
Points: 5,901, Level: 11 Points: 5,901, Level: 11 Points: 5,901, Level: 11
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
there is also a filter design i saw somewhere on RIU that might work well with an axial fan. its some scotchbrite cloth sewn together like a pillow case, filled with activated carbon and fastened over the exhaust. people said it worked very well, i think its called my $3 carbon scrubber...
__________________
used to crumble up my weed and hit it in foil, now it's illadelph glass wid a glycerine coil
Reply With Quote
  #10    
Old 10-29-2008, 10:08 AM
Super Stoner
Mr. Ganja
Seamaiden is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: In the forest.
Posts: 7,600
Seamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant futureSeamaiden has a brilliant future
Points: 19,200, Level: 20 Points: 19,200, Level: 20 Points: 19,200, Level: 20
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
That was panhead's thread. I need to learn more about fans. Especially if I want to keep my title here at home as Queen of Fans.
(I create a wind tunnel effect so we don't have to turn on the central A/C.)
__________________

 

Tags
dehumidifier, negative, pressure, static

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Thread

Thread Starter

Forum

Replies

Last Post

Box question about Negative pressure dknob Newbie Central 2 09-09-2008 05:08 PM
Negative rep.... theloadeddragon Support 11 08-14-2008 06:00 PM
negative air pressure pokey Grow Room Design & Setup 5 05-27-2008 11:27 PM
Negative Air?? Coop25 Newbie Central 2 03-06-2008 07:01 PM
Negative rep nongreenthumb Support 22 06-28-2007 09:09 AM

Posting Rules

You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Come Check out a new Poker Forum for the online poker community

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:08 AM.
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright © 2000-2009 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2