Going indoor, going HYDRO, not much else to say.

Bagseed pretty much turned out male. Just went out and got me some clones. Now I can tell you, they certainly appear to be female lol.

This is my temporary setup until the HPS and mylar get here. The CFL's are just to keep them happy for a few days. I will reuse the CFL's for clones as well.

Ebb and flow setup to be realized tomorrow. PICs to follow. Discretion better part of valor, taking it inside and lower key.

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OK, so yeah, the last two seed started plants turned out to be females, how wonderful. From 14 hopefuls to 2 finalists (plus 3 ringers to round out the mix).

I have gone back on my word, not going hydro any time soon, staying with the soil until I get the hang of how weed grows a little better. Besides, I have a TON of great soil, and from what I have seen so far, it looks like it is just fine to grow it, so whatever...don't hate just yet, I will go hydro in the near future, but not just right now.

Yeah, my clone setup is a little ghetto right now (still) but I am working on a homebrew cfl diy hood.


the flowering chamber is good to go. Heat tests reveal essentially cool to the touch hoods with a vent fan and extraction fan running. I simply cut a hole for a fart fan and mounted it sideways...yeah I am "hood" like that.

So the plan is to make some clones either this evening or tomorrow and send the ladies in for flowering either monday or maybe wait until the weekend so I can keep an eye on it at first (a little better).

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Here is my homebrew CFL fixture and the clones

It is completely ghetto...but it covers the entire grow area more or less, so a different planting setup may be in order, but I am learning as I go...

It cost a little under $11 to make (maybe more if you don't already have a bunch of PVC laying around, maybe less if you have some spare roofing flashing handy.

I paid good money for some nice hps hoods (x2 150w) they are in the flowering chamber.

I am going to mount a cloning chamber as well and be pretty set.

Basically the depth and width cuts the light out of the top of the chamber pretty good so all light is just bouncing around below it.

LOL I only had ABS cement laying around, my PVC cement dried up so I tested the stuff and it seemed to hold so I said fuck it and used it.

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OK, here is a lineup of what is going down:

As you can plainly see from the clone shots (compare them with photos just 2 weeks prior when I bought them), the clones are growing like crazy under cfl.

I put the not as healthy female into the HPS chamber and bent her over...oh yeah she liked it...I started with the HPS at 18" and the plant really dug it, it was reaching up big time to the light.

The other female is shooting sprouts like mad...and just doing fine outdoors. I am letting it mother a bit and I am going to take a stab at cloning them. I have what I need to clone, but I am debating the switchover to hydro (again...)

We'll see first things first, the mother needs to get bigger offshoots for me to start thinking about it...

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Last week I broke the tip of the healthy mom. I rushed it to trauma center and cloned it. The clone seems to be alive and the mom sprouted 2 new main colas...voila, never too late to top them I suppose. I only topped the one, and it was by accident at that.

I took some more clones they seem to be doing OK so far. I still have the baggie domes on them though.

4 in the flower, sealed some light leaks on the chamber, built an air intake light baffle, 12/12 we are rockin'.

Mothering an AK for future consideration, if these clones take quick, I am going to clone everything I can take off the one I still have in veg.

No new photos, not much to show new. When we see some flowers I will post shots, and/or if the clones get nice and beefy in the next couple of weeks, but probably no new posts for a couple of weeks while we let flowering kick in, I am doing my best not to disturb the ladies much.

It seems that the closet is doing truly better than expected and my only consideration is if I should've stuck 2 250's (or at least 175's) up there. Alas, I am certain that the light is fine for the area, but the plants do seem to enjoy the HPS.

Of course, shortly after I wrote my last entry, the broken top that I thought for certain had "took" rotted right at the point of entry of the soil. Lesson learned: soil was KEPT way too moist.

Clone soil needs to start out very moist then be kept moderately moist.

So I needed to take another clone off the outdoor to hopefully have two healthy clones of the bagseed (which appears is going to be some fine marijuana). So I took another piece off it, and hopefully it will live. The other clone I took last week seems very healthy and has had the humidity dome baggie off for most of the week. I think it is going to take root for certain.

The flowering is only really a week or so into it so really nothing new to report other than the plants really seem to take to HPS. Closet temps are cool and hopefully if the clones take I will be throwing those into the veg chamber. Right now they are sitting on a workbench under a small cfl until I can be sure they are rooted and ready for the veg chamber.

OK, I relented due to overwhelming requests from various users on rollitup, I have decided to post some photos of the flowering (only switched over for a week - but they had a little head start from being outside since June - they were starting anyway I think).

So all of you can stop PM'ing me constantly because it is overwhelming my inbox, you will simply have to start posting here.

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Update:

The first round of clones looks like 100% success, but one of the clones is weak, for sure.

The second round clones are 50/50 bags off and one is limping, 2 more look like hell, the other 3 look like they will take...

Flowers are clearly showing now in the flower chamber and in the veg chamber the remaining AK clone is regenerating and hopefully soon I will clone it some more as well, I think I will wait a couple of few weeks.

The flowering is in full swing on all plants with the AK lagging about 2 weeks behind and unfortunately quite stretchy...it's kinda tight in there, but no worries I know they will grow bushy based off the mom.

The clones are really looking like hell. Only 2 are going to survive and they will take another week to be ready to show roots. The other cuttings showed roots in much quicker time and were in larger pots tho...I am going to wait awhile and try to take some more cuttings.

Pics to follow but I think all is cool.

OK, here is a pic of my AK mother, bagseed clone (has bamboo stick stuck in pot), plus 2 super healthy (had roots poking out of the coconut) clones and a thrid that was healthy but now seems to be stuck...thinking of culling it, but am willing to give it a week or two.

Mom is totally ready to be cloned again, but I am going to wait awhile because I just fed her a week ago after the second round of cloning.

For the record, the second round of cloning was a complete failure, 100% loss rate. I tried a humidity dome box as a last ditch effort, but after 2 weeks it was obvious that after just 2 days the dome was just rotting already dying twigs. Nary a root to be seen. Something went totally wrong but I would swear that I had a better success rate (as evidenced by the healthy ones in the photo) on the first batch. I bought some gel hormone $$ and will give it a few weeks before I reattempt in coco cubes instead of soil and powder (rooting hormone powder). For the record I was using the green light powder. It does seem to work under the right conditions.

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