My Second try.....12/12 from clone - Page 6

bfq · #51 07-21-2008, 08:36 AM

i have no idea what he is saying or showing us... that is some funky stuff for sure!

and i have no room in my grow to get back far enough from the plants to get any pictures worth a fuck... my grow is actually behind a false wall with a tunnel i have to crawl in to get to it... so, aside from my being a picture pussy still i just cant fit shit in my view finder... i tried... my beta ScrOG racks SUCK so i cant pull them out of the grow and get pics either... i can barely rotate them to do maintenance. and watering them can be problematic.... bad design

BUT i have finally decided on my final grow area (i think) and it will be 4'wx3'dx6'h and will have locking doors on it... when i get it going i promise i will stop being a picture pussy and will share some pictorial evidence of the shit i spout

i sure wish i was wise enough to help you out with why your stuff isnt flowering.

can you get a couple more seeds from somewhere and pop em in to flowering immediately like Monkee did? not for yield but just to see if your grow can actually produce something that flowers? even if they stay in shot glasses and produce the little three hit bud you see most people get from doing that while you let your clones keep on plugging away it will show you something and give data.

my best guess is you are growing one serious pain in the ass set of genetics, sadly.... i cant think of any other reason.

and to be clear, i only topped one branch out of 6 under the flowering lights... it was an experiment, not a method

what is a method though is i am methodically adding more and more CFL's... adding another 100+ watts

when i get my real cab going i am gonna be adding HPS and MH like that too LOL

i am thinking on adding pods of 100watt HPS and 50 watt MH lights over 2 or 4 plant ScrOGs and maybe running a 400 watt HPS on a tall side grow in the cab to see if i get more love out of my little ScrOGs or one big monster (relative, eh) plant... i will have 4-6 times the space you have now though and will be able to duct AC into it and exhaust through my attic... i love the idea of pulling 2-4 plants out of my grow each month to feed my head rather than waiting months and months for a bigger harvest... so i do not see myself liking the tall plant area.... but MAN i want to grow some Jack Herer and i am just not about to fuck it up with a micro ScrOG... like you, i like the Sativa's too... and i REALLY like the idea of having several strains going at once.

i have 3 phenotypes growing right now in my op... hopefully i will have clones from two of those soon... the third wasnt a good plant for my op at all so i didnt bother with clones.

when my mothers are able to provide some BIG clones for me i will be experimenting with storing cuttings for months on end (allegedly you can keep em for a couple months in the fridge if you do it right) and that will let me try more and more strains until i find the *perfect* stuff for me and my op... ok, i admit it, i am just a mad botanist and really dig growing

sorry i broke out with the massive babble on your thread again... i am just stalling on mowing my lawn

oh yeah, back on topic for a paragraph... did you fix the temps by adding/increasing intake? or did you up the fan size? i scrolled and only saw what you said you were gonna do, not what you actually did.

MetalSmelter · #52 07-21-2008, 10:18 AM

Not a problem there bfq, on the babbling, i do it more often than not

What i did was double the height on intake, i now have a 3"x3" rectangle, before it was about 1.5"x3". No ice now, apt themostat set at 86F. Box is now sitting at 86F and getting cooler was at 89 this morning 3hrs ago.....So i bleieve its finally getting back to a very nice ambinet temp. I'll have to check on the outside temp though to see if its just a cooler day than normally or what, but its easily 90-95F+ outside rightn ow. But AC dosent seem to be on as much.....hmm. I know it worked though.

I really wonder about these genetics though, friend of mine has less lights than i do, and temps around 88-89F, similar to mine now....and no problem at all for him flowering....just gotta keep temp down and no stressing. His is crystalling up some, i'll get pictures in a day or so. It looks just like mine, as i gave it to him a few months ago and its coming around though, same genetics. Same physical traits.

bfq · #53 07-21-2008, 10:31 AM

it is your thread to babble in though

good on the temps!

if your weather is like mine, you are hitting a REALLY hot point outside... or will in a couple days

what does your friend think about your issues?

B. THC R+D · #54 07-22-2008, 10:40 AM

Looking good, on spike clip that yellow leaf if not already, its just sucking the plant and not giving back.!!! Db.

bfq · #55 07-24-2008, 01:34 AM

so, was just back in my grow... and i checked out the topped plant i did in flower and compared it to the new mother i am bringing up that i topped the same day...

the plant topped in flower has barely grown the new branches so far and the new mother (in veg) is HUGE and bushy.

i doubt i will do any more topping/FIMming in flower.

i will see how the next batch of clones does without any topping in my ScrOG and then decide if i am gonna veg my clones to top or not.

bfq · #56 07-26-2008, 01:38 PM

where ya at, man?

B. THC R+D · #57 07-27-2008, 08:18 AM

Maybe that big beast of a plant, put the ms is the box and is now watering him...!!! Lol db.~tlb!

hey chime in here so were know yur ok.!

MetalSmelter · #58 07-28-2008, 06:49 PM

Sorry guys my motherboard fried last monday after a cheap PSU blew, waiting for replacement to come in in a ew days, and will follow up then, everything is looking great though. Wilt is looking to be the best out of any of them so far, 3" tall about 10-12" wide by 5" deep, 12-14 heads at the same size. Gotta say yall try wilting a few clones, letting them reveg and see what happens, everything is perfect on her, no stretching either.

As far as leggy goes, shes good, i think i topped her when i fimmed, so no more main stalk vertical growth, but plenty of internodal growth, fimmed areas have 3 heads, where properly fimmed. I have 3 other smaller clones that i have that are 3-4days old, LSTing them, which is should have done to leggy.

Trust me guys no updating for me is erking the fk out of me.....I hate to leave shit hanging. Thanks for keeping up guys though, my appologies.

New Mobo when i install is a 2.6Ghz AMD 5000+, added 4GB DDR Ram, 430w PSU. . Should be fun installing and getting it all right.

bfq · #59 07-28-2008, 07:26 PM

good to hear you are ok, if having tech issues

be sure to upgrade the BIOS before you get too far into things... but i bet you know that already

you know, it is never too late to LST the plants

MetalSmelter · #60 07-28-2008, 07:51 PM

Yea just hope to know it didnt blow anything else, i havn't worked on computers in a few years so it'll be fun getting and learning around installing everything again. Got an Asus mobo, not sure bios manuf but where can i get this upgraded bios? Any recommendations? And what benefits will this allow over stock mobo.

I may try slow bending my big girl leggy, but some of her lower arms/heads, 1/3 of the way up where there are 3 coming out are rather stretched, 2" instead of 3/4" i'd prefer, but all is well, and very green. Gave 1/3 teaspoon 10.52.10 in 1/2 gallon to big mama 2 waterings ago. Have given Wilt 1/4 teaspoon AJ at 1wk into 1/2 gallon, only gave 1/2 that amount as she's in a 6" pot.

Other 3 are currently in solo cups, lst to 1/2 their height without any stretching yet, i've figured out the way with cfl's after watching leggy's middle arms stretch at that 1/3 region. i need to keep everything 2"away from the plexi to keep stretching from happening. 4-8" from plexi i get about 2" stretch, below no growth, stasis.

Just been watching and taking notes, no pics, but will take some when cpu is up and running.

Also a huge point, no hairs on any yet i figure not for awhile on wilt but still waitng for leggy, i fimmed her again ysterday after initial a week ago. I've also fimmed all 12-15 heads on wilt, we'll see what she does...i think i have a 10-12weeker, my friends still isint finished, going for mabey 1.5mnths in flower so far and looks to need to fill out alot, heavy leafage, and hasn't filled out much with hairs/trics. But looks like it has alot of potential to pack on.