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Old 02-25-2007, 09:08 AM
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Hello all I am another newbie. I have tried growing before and had a few decent plants with a setup kinda what I'm working with now. My MH light that I had at the time went out like 3 weeks before the plants were done. It looked & smelled like some good bud & it had a few seeds in it so I saved a few. I also had a few seeds from other good bud that I've had. So that brings me to where I am now. I wasn't gonna go thru with it, cuz I put like 20 seeds in a paper towel to germ. and for the first week I didn't have any luck. Finally 4 cracked & gave me a little hope. Take in consideration these seeds have been in a container for the past 2-3 years, so they might take a little longer to get going. They have been buried for 2 days now and still no sign of life, but I have faith that they will pop up.

Now to my setup, I don't have any pics as of yet, but as they grow I will post some. I have a 5 gallon water tub, low profiled one w/ a 2x4 cut to fit across it long way, 2 small strips of white paneling w/ 3 holes in each, 6 small pots filled 50/50 Perlite & Vermiculite. I have a half of a napkin in the bottom of each w/ a 2 pieces of nylon rope going thru the holes in the bottom that feeds out of the reservoir, & a small 10-20 gallon air pump for fish tanks w/ 12 in airstone. White paneling around the walls w/ 400 Watt MH hanging above it. I know I should probably start with flou. tubes, but dont have any, so for now I'll just hang it higher and wait to see what happens. And also have a small fan blowing air exchange in there. I will post pics shortly, so you have a better idea. It's nothing fancy, but it's worth a shot I guess. And if all goes well maybe I'll exchange the bagseeds for some Dank Seeds. I would like to try to keep these plants short and stocky, but not knowing the strain or genetics I may have some issues. I'll keep posted.
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Old 02-27-2007, 03:57 PM
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An update. It's 2 days later and I still do not see anything breaking the surface on any of the pots. I dug around a little and found the seed it looks like the taproot has grown a little but nothing major, I'm thinking it should break surface in the next day or so. I think it may be going slowly due to being older seeds. Anyone have any input on this? I'm gonna wait and see what happens, but in the mean time I ordered some White Widow & Aurora Indica seeds from from WF. Hopefully they will be here within a couple weeks. I didn't put a return address on the outside, maybe I should have so it isn't intercepted for suspicion. I would like to try them together and use the same nutrients and at the same time keep them small & compact w/ thick buds. I hear the smell of both are really strong during flowering, much less together. I will post some pictures as soon as I see growth.

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Old 02-27-2007, 05:14 PM
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I don't know of anyone starting with a 400w. Buy one tiny cfl for $13 and put it right on top of the seeds. 1" or less.

also, don't bury the seeds very deep. perhaps the depth of the actual seed itself.

I'm not a great soil person, but hopefully this bump will attract someone elses attention.
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Old 02-27-2007, 08:16 PM
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Well i dont know if its soil. 50/50 perlite/vermiculite. I have the light 30 inches above them so it shouldnt be too much, but I was looking at cfl's & flo tubes. May go that route. But I have planted in cups and other things before and at least had them pop up. I think i'm gonna just leave them alone for a couple days and see if anything happens. not really gonna get my hopes up too much on them and just wait for my other seeds to come in. Good things come to those who wait. I'm ready to try AI anyways. It looks like some good Dank.
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also, my experience with seed sprouting, regardless of medium, has been that about only 1 in 6 bag seeds will sprout. and that's with them being fairly recent. I don't have any old bagseed.
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Old 03-01-2007, 09:28 PM
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Yea I'm waiting for my AI & WW to get here. I checked the status of my order & payment is yet to be received but it's only been 4 days. I think my problem with sprouting is old seeds and the fact that I didnt have any heat going at night and with no light I would get up in the morning and the temp would be like 50. But I planted a few more bagseeds just to see & I have a little action under the surface hopefully she will stick her head out in a day or so. Have you ever had any exp. with AI or WW? I'll post pics as soon as I see a sprout.
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Old 03-03-2007, 08:09 AM
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Okay I have one that kinda broke surface but still hasnt opened up yet. Going slower to me than i think it should. I have a question for anyone. My temp with light on and I raised it close to 35 in above pots w/small fan above blowing down & it still gets close to 90. Any suggestions on how to lower temp without changing lights? I thought about maybe spraying the walls with a spray bottle maybe it will give it a little more moisture and hopefully drop temps. I dont know what the humidity is.
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I got my temp down to around 82-84 I figure that should be fine. I have another seed that is starting to take root so it should pop up in a day or so. The one that surfaced first still hasn't grown much it just straitened up a little but hasn't split yet. Should I be adding nutes yet? I have been mixing water with a little bit of root starter by Schultz & letting it sit for a day. I didn't know if maybe a little N would help it to grow some.
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wait with the nutes at leased until the a 2 weeks old and show some sets of leaves. you really can kill with nutes put in to early. also the first nutes should be in a damn weak solution to prevent shock to the plants. the first inches can be painfully slow, but that is good this way. keep the light close by to prevent stretching of the plants!
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Well the only one that was sprouted still hasn't grown any, so I pulled it up. It looked half dead and when it came up it didn't even have any root. So I replaced it with another seed that is cracking but still has no taproot. So in about 2-3 days i should have another sprout. I hope these that pop-up are better thank the last. WF still hasnt received my payment. I sent it out a week ago from today, so maybe they should get it in the next day or so. Once I get those seeds I'm hoping to kick things off. I'd like to have 8 plants 3 Aurora Indica, 3 White Widow, & 2 Bagseed I'm hoping to keep them small & compact but solid. Hopefully out of 8 I will have 5-6 females with any luck. Damn time goes by slow when you're waiting on things. I tried to take a pic of the so called plant that sprouted, but it was way too small my camera couldn't even find it. I'll report as soon as there is change.
 

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