Alt0's Grow (1st timer) - Page 3

Alto · #21 04-10-2008, 04:20 PM

Thanks 1skittles6
I hope so as well, but with all the experience and know-how here at riu how can I go wrong.
Went to the basement today and was moving some stuff around when a bottle of PH down fell off a shelf.
The top popped right off and spilled a bunch all over the floor.

It cleaned up well and did not get into anything but now all liquids are banished to the shelf near the floor. And BTW acid really makes your floor shine! I never thought it could look so clean lol

going down after dinner to take some photos.
They dont have their heads out yet but I can see down in the cubes and everyone has sprouted a tap root!

In other news: The order from Dr Greenthumb came today!
so I am 2 for 2 on seed orders now. Ordered 10 got 12.
Took a while but if the plants look like the picture when I am done it would have been worth the wait. They just have to be my next grow however being I had 100% germination. Hurray!

Alto · #22 04-11-2008, 03:22 AM

Well the images of the rockwool don't show very much, so instead I will share the package that came from Canada yesterday.
1- is the envelope
2- is the contents
3- is the end result (with some patience and love)
This morning showed more progress and I should have a picture in a day or so with their heads sticking out.
Here are the "specifics" about Grenadine. Gr I got these because along with the other strains I have collected I wanted a "piney" smelling strain
because, well I like that =)
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Grenadine
Product Code- GR
[(Niagara X Shiva) X G-13]

Potency 4
Potency Key: Strains like
AK-47 or White Widow would
have a rating of 4 out of 5

Indoor Growth
Cutting height
*18" to 24" Plant Height
*When flowered at a cutting height of 12"
(with 36 hour dark period at onset)

Yield (g/m²)SOG
350 to 400 g

Flowering
50 Days
Finish
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Current Room Conditions
DARK

Temperature 75 - 80 F

Humidity 65%

Water Conditions
PH 5.8

Temperature 68 F

Straight H2O with 10ml per gal. Hydrogen Peroxide 3% solution.

PPM (waiting on a meter but this will be included once I start nutrients)

Alto · #23 04-11-2008, 03:46 AM

While I am at it...
These are the strains included in the Mega Mix package I got from Golden Seed.
Later on you all can help me decide what ones I chose to grow as they were not packaged separately. It will be a sort of "can you identify this" game we can play.

I numbered the cubes (in my head) being I don't want to name them until I know they are Females.
I would hate to have to kill named plants that I have gotten to know should some end up male.
The following in order are
1-Shiva Shanti, 2-Jack Herer, 3-Bigbud, 4-Mazar, 5-Northern Lights, 6-Sweettooth #3
This should be fun, I tried to pick seeds to start with that looked "different" from each other and everyone germinated so hopefully I will have quite the variety.

toolage · #24 04-11-2008, 01:25 PM

man i'm stoked to see this grow set off. This is a very nice stealthy grow and I'm sure your going to get some dank smoke when you are done. only one word can describe how I feel.....jealous!!!!

Alto · #25 04-12-2008, 03:45 AM

Well this will be day one of the actual "Grow Journal"
(second official day of the grow)
**call it nurse**
"April 12, 2000 and something - 6:31 Tibet"
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Room Conditions:
LIGHTS (T5 2'x4 tubes - 6500K) ON!
Distance from top of rockwool 9.5"
Temperature - 76F - 25C
Humidity - 69%
vent running
heater on (at 72F)
small room fan (on low, facing room for circulation)
Water Conditions:
Temperature - 66F - 18C
PH - 6.2
PPM - (still looking for a good meter, cheap, but straight H2O with 10ml per Gal Hydrogen Peroxide 3% solution)
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Well, I am so happy!
5 of the six I started have completely sprouted (I have doubts about #6)
So, I took one of the new batch of seeds I got and chucked one into the
rockwool with the non-sprouted seed as a backup, and to increase variety.
I covered with a piece of opaque black plastic to keep the sun (my T5s)
out and we will see what happens.

Baby Pictures below in order:
1- #1
2- #2
3- #3
4- #4
5- #5
6- room temp
7- water temp
8- humidity
9- nursery tray.

*Notes:
I reordered the cubes in the tray to match the numerical listing in the photos to keep track.
PH was up a little and so I drained the tray and added water balanced at 5.5
(together with the water in the cubes it should slowly lower the PH the plants are seeing. We are dealing with a very small qty. of water)
Lowered the temperature the heater is running to 72F (we expect a few cooler days ahead so I left it on)
Took photos of sprout heads
Need to check more for a good meter soon!
Added a Grenadine seed to #6 as I think I had a miss-fire. (plan if both sprout is: decide what to do when its time to move to hydro pots )
possibly move additional sprout first to dirt indoors, then to outdoors for the season. We will see what happens.

Enjoy my baby pictures!

toolage · #26 04-12-2008, 04:23 AM

OHHH SNAP! and so it begins....i'm so anxious to see this grow op in full effect. glad to see they are poking their heads out! Now the fun can begin!!

Alto · #27 04-12-2008, 03:00 PM

Checked in on the lil family this afternoon.
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Day 2-4/12
Room Conditions:
LIGHTS (T5 - 2'x4 tubes) ON!
Distance from top of rockwool 14"
Temperature - 72F
Humidity - 75%
vent running
heater off
small room fan (off)
Water Conditions:
Temperature - 66F - 18C
PH - 5.7
PPM - (still looking for a good tri-meter, - H2O with FloraNova Grow 1.0 ml per gal.)
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Notes: Humidity went up but thats OK.
Raised lights a little.
Went to Hydro shop and did not buy anything! (thats a first for me)
But found out that the nutes I am going to use (being they were free)
(FloraNova by General Hydroponics) is at least partly organic
and Hydrogen Peroxide will KILL the live parts.
So,... I flushed the reservoir for my Emily's Garden,
refilled with PH balanced (5.5) H2O that has a very small amount
(1.0 ML per Gal) of the Veg nutes in it.
Guy at the hydro store said its a good idea to start them on it as "slips"
and that it will help with root development so I did it.
Everyone looks very happy

Emptied the seedling tray and washed it out then using my syringe
flushed the rockwool cubes with plain PH balanced H2O
to aid in removing the rest of the Hydrogen Peroxide.

Placed the cubes into the Hydroton (1/2 way filled) grow pots
and covered the sides.
(another level will go over the cubes once my babies are big enough)

I am all planted, and now it is just a waiting game for the next few months.
Along with all the nute changes and such.

I am going to be following the FloraNova Feeding Schedule
(for circulating systems) exactly as they recommend.
That would include the 1.0 ML per Gal. FloraNova Grow for the first week and up from there.
I will start adding Floralicious Plus after the first week and switch to Nova Bloom on the sixth week
(that is if they are ready to go to flower at that time, at least 12")
with Kool Bloom starting during transition and increasing as I go.
I will be using another product for Foliar Feeding.
Van De Zwaan / House and Garden - Magic Green
I would use all of their products but I have the ones I have so I will use those.
I will also introduce CO2 during the Bloom Cycle using CO2Boost.

Sixth week will be transition to bloom phase if everything works as directed.
With the Fifth week being a Transition week from Grow to Bloom.
Fifth week Lights will go to 12/12 with a solid 24-36 hrs dark in between.

Attached is Nutrient Feeding Schedule adjusted for my set-up
and I increased blooming weeks from 4 to 6.
(considering everyone here will tell me to wait at least 2 weeks like they do with everyone =) )

If anyone wants to use this product this may be a good test as to its effectiveness. I may want to adjust as I go as far as PPM and time in each phase.

Hung Mylar (floor to ceiling) on the side of the room where the HPS is going to go.
It should be here in about a week or so.
I plan to move to that side of the room once its set up
It wil be a week into the grow and the light came with a conversion bulb for veg so more light better right?
I can still use the other box for mothers or new seedlings.

Alto · #28 04-13-2008, 07:18 AM

Date: 4/13-Day 3
Room Conditions:
LIGHTS (T5 - 2'x4 tubes) _ON
Distance from top of Rockwood 12"
Temperature - 70F
Humidity - 72%
vent running
heater off
small room fan off
Water Conditions:
Reservoir Aeration running _yes
Temperature - 65F
PH – 7.2
PPM - ________
Nutrient Solution _FloraNova GROW 1ML per Gal.
Foliar Solution
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Notes:
PH was way up lowered to 5.5 by draining and adjusting then returning to reservoir.
#6 has joined the party and have 6 sprouting now.

#1 has almost lost the seed husk. (finally)
#2 has very small first leaves as compared to the others, yet the second (or first pointy) leaves seem larger than the rest?
#3 - #4 look almost identical now and are about the same size.
#5 is finally all the way out from the Rockwool. It is overall larger than its siblings.

Camera batteries died after taking #4 picture L will have to get more this evening.
Covered walls in the area where the new light will go with Mylar film.
Need a container to use to rinse out PH test tube in Grow Room.

Used 10ML syringe to suck water from reservoir and carefully spray onto Rockwool cubes to keep better saturated.

Hey hi
I ran out of battery juice (re-chargeable batteries in charger now/environment and all)
But here are the kids that I did get shots of...
1- #1
2- #2
3- #3
4- #4
Once batteries are charged I will get the rest as well as the new Mylar in the HPS area.

Alto · #29 04-14-2008, 03:30 AM

Date: 4/14
Room Conditions:
LIGHTS (T5 - 2'x4 tubes) _on
Distance from top of Rockwood 9"
Temperature - 72F
Humidity - 72%
vent running
heater off
small room fan (on_low, facing room)
Water Conditions:
Reservoir Aeration running _yes
Temperature - 65F
PH – 6.5
PPM - ________
Nutrient Solution 1.0ML Gal. FloraNova GROW
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Notes: added 10 drops of “PH down” to reservoir to lower PH.
PH has been up since HP flush and have been adding “PH down” slowly to bring it back down.
Removed light cover on #6 (see photo #4)
Everyone stretched a little (about ½”) so lowered lights a small amount.
Lights are now 9” above grow medium.

I have been making all changes in a very slow fashion.
Just a bit at a time, and waiting to see result.
Eventually I should have conditions with water and room just as I want them.
I obviously picked well as all plants are showing different characteristics other than 3-4 which still seem to be very alike
Images:
#1- #1 (it seems to be slower in development than the rest, and was the first to poke its head out)
#2- #3 looks just like #4
#3- #5
#4- #6 (you can now see the root developing and it is starting to reach toward the lights, I expect it to be above the surface very shortly)
#5- new bench I made for under the HPS, with Mylar on walls.
#6- air intake filter above bench

Made a new shelf under where the HPS will be. It is 2' high to get passive wick hydro off floor (easier to control water temp with air under res.)
Last image shows air intake filter that will attach to HPS. I placed this at ceiling height to better exhaust hot air from room.
I anticipate heat issues once the HPS is running, (hopefully not that bad) so I am prepared to purchase a larger duct fan like a Vortex to resolve it.
The reason I am only using a duct booster fan (although a big one) is the noise issue, I have purchased some R30 Fiberglass insulation to resolve that.
My intention is to insulate the back of the facade wall around the room to cut down on transmitted noise.
I mean what is the use of a "stealth room" if you can hear all the motors (air pump, fan(s) running from the main cellar?
I intend to have this completed by when the HPS arrives.
Thats about it, thanks for stopping in

1skittles6 · #30 04-14-2008, 07:53 AM

how old are they?
3 or 4 days?