Alt0's Grow (1st timer) - Page 18

asf2j · #**171** 05-01-2008, 09:24 AM

im assuming you just poked a hole with your finger, dropped them in and just let them, right? what do you feed it with when it's in the rockwool, anything?

thegigglepimp · #**172** 05-01-2008, 09:30 AM

I used a thin paintbrush to poke a whole 1-2cm's down into the rock wool. Put the seed in root down, tried to break the rock wool up over to cover the hole. Then just water, no nutes etc. In fact i kept them in the dark still when they were in rock wool untill they emerged if i remember correctly.

Alto · #**173** 05-01-2008, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegigglepimp

I used a thin paintbrush to poke a whole 1-2cm's down into the rock wool. Put the seed in root down, tried to break the rock wool up over to cover the hole. Then just water, no nutes etc. In fact i kept them in the dark still when they were in rock wool untill they emerged if i remember correctly.

Same here but I used a small pencil to make my hole.
and everyone was up and out except 6/7 when I put on the fluros
no nutes for about a week or two just PH balanced H20.

asf2j · #**174** 05-01-2008, 06:37 PM

tight, will do, you guys are awesome with the help.

Alto · #**175** 05-02-2008, 04:08 AM

Date: 5/02 –5:30am

Room Conditions:
LIGHTS (400W MH) ON 18/6 (off time 8am to 2pm)
Distance from top of Growing Medium 24"
Temperature - 79F
Humidity - 59%
Room/Light vent running-YES ((off 7am on 4pm)
Small room fan (on high, facing plants, timed off / on every 30 mins)
Water Conditions:
Reservoir Aeration running-YES
Temperature – 67.5F
PH – 5.8
PPM – 1095

Nutrient Solution:2 GAL.
25.0ML Flora Nova GROW™
2.0ML Floralicious Plus™
20.0ML FLORABLEND ™Vegan Compost Tea

Notes:
Not much new to report today
New growth on No2 and No5 looks healthy and good
Sprayed everyone down this morning just as light went off

Images:

1/7- day 22 5:23(AM)
8- overall shot

toolage · #**176** 05-02-2008, 04:25 AM

those are some dark green beasts! YAY GO #2!!!!! I'll be rooting for this plant all the way up until harvest. #1 is going to be a beast later on, she looks like she's on steroids!!! Keep up the green thumb techniques bro, you are definenlty gifted!

Alto · #**177** 05-02-2008, 07:28 AM

Yeah its fun to watch them develop.
Here are some odd things I noticed lately:
(Remember all these plants are in the same nute solution time schedule ect.)
No 3 has developed dark purple stems. This is the sign of several things according to the grow FAQ but I think in this case its purely strain related.
Notice No 4 it's stems are light green under the exact same conditions.

No 5 is passing everyone in the "growth" department
(its on its 2nd set of leaves on the side branches already!)

The leaf structure is quite different on each plant as well.
While a few have the tucking under type leaves as in No 4
some have the center leaf on top others have the side ones on top.
You can see this comparing No 4 (under) and No 3 (over)

While this is all interesting to me, (maybe not so much to some of you),
next grow I think I will stick to a single strain (OK maybe 2)
That way I can provide ideal conditions for it rather than trying to make several different strains (with different needs) happy at the same time.

I guess it will all boil down to how well I do cloning, and what plants develop as girls. Should I get "skunked" (no pun intended)
and need to start next one on seed I will choose seeds that look very much alike for 3 and the other 3 will be Grenadine (being I know they are all the same strain)

Thanks for your constant support Toolage, (more rep when able)
and to everyone that has taken an interest in my journal.

toolage · #**178** 05-02-2008, 07:39 AM

yeah different strains are definently harder to maintain especially for a first grow i'd assume. I'm grew 2 indica and 1 sativa, and the sativa was very hard to maintain. Once I got the conditions right though, it flourished the best it could for bagseed. Everything is working out well though bro and I'm sure you are going to see great things out of these!! And thanks for the future rep and I'm here for ya bro!

Alto · #**179** 05-03-2008, 04:32 AM

Date: 5/03 –5:30am
Room Conditions:
LIGHTS (400W MH) ON 18/6 (off time 7am to 1pm)
Distance from top of Growing Medium 20"
Temperature - 74F (78.9/71.0)
Humidity – 49.5% (50/46)
Room/Light vent running-YES ((off 7am on 4pm)
Small room fan (on high, facing plants, timed off / on every 2 hours)
Water Conditions:
Reservoir Aeration running-ALWAYS
Temperature – 69F
PH – 5.8
PPM – 1200

Nutrient Solution:2 GAL.
25.0ML Flora Nova GROW™
2.0ML Floralicious Plus™
20.0ML FLORABLEND ™Vegan Compost Tea

Notes:
OK well the lights of for 6 is definitely helping growth.
No 2 and No 5 have responded to either the Epsom salt spray or time.
Either way they are both looking a LOT better this morning.
New Leaf sets are larger and greener than I had expected in this short a time.
Yay!
No 1 and No 3 are getting huge! I measured No 3 to record this and surprised myself.
She comes in at 16” wide across the largest leaf set and a staggering 6” tall.
That brings her ½ the way to where I intend to flower (12”)
I may be able to flower in about another two weeks, maybe less
depending on how they do with the new Nutes mix that will start later toady.
Speaking of which, I premixed and PH balanced Week 4 nutrients last night,
And will be changing the reservoir later this after noon when lights come back on.
I of course will document this when I do it.
Enjoy the images!

Images:
1/7- day 23 5:23(AM)
8- No 2 on the REBOUND!
9- No 3 width measurement
10- No 3 height measurement

Well another day closer to flower. Man these kids are finally starting to take off!
Changing the Res later today (lights on at 1pm so about mid day)
Hope everyone is well, and thanks for the support

Additional Note:
My temp/RH gauge finally showed up from Hong Cong (was opened by customs) and so
now the Room Temp/RH record will also include high/low for the reporting period.
Thanks again

Alto · #**180** 05-03-2008, 05:06 AM

Howdy!

Pickin' up to full strength with this weeks mix...

WEEK 4
Nutrient Solution: 2 GAL. mix
25.0ML Flora Nova GROW™
4.0ML Floralicious Plus™
30.0ML FLORABLEND ™Vegan Compost Tea
2 Tsp. Epsom Salt (for needed Mg due to clalcium in tap water)*
2 Tbs. PyroSol™ Silicate Clay (Will add silicate)
*

Quote:

GROWFAQ
If the starting water is above 200 ppm, that is pretty hard water, that will lock out mg with all of the calcium in the water

Quote:

Side Note:
I used my new PuR water filter to remove chlorine and other nasty stuff from tap water.
I have allowed my tap water to sit for up to a week in an open container but I suspect
my water company uses chloramine.
This will not be removed by evaporation and can only be removed with an RO filter. I dont have an RO filter
(I have been pricing them however for next grow) Anyway to make a long story shorter, I got this faucet attached PuR water filter.
What a waste of my hard earned cash! When measuring the tap water straight it reads 140 PPM thru the filter it reads 140 PPM.
Anyway save your money.

OK back to the mix.
to 2 gallons of PuRed water PPM 140 (lmao) I added
4.0 ml Floralicious Plus™
(this is a constant supplement during entire grow)PPM 320
STIR...I then added,
30.0ML FLORABLEND ™Vegan Compost Tea
(another supplement with a slight increase to bring to full dose) PPM 600
STIR...Next I added,
2 tsp Epsom salt
(being the plants responded to the foliar spray with Mg I thought it wise to add some to the mix) PPM 650 STIR...And finally new to me is,
10ml PyroSol™ Silicate Clay
(made from silica mud or something will add silicon to plants providing a defense from heat
and other stresses I am sure to provide them during their journey to adulthood, promotes strengthening of plant cell walls )
STIR...At this point the PPM reading was at 850.
I then added the base nutrient to bring mix to target of 1200 PPM
25.0ML Flora Nova GROW™
Between adding each part I mixed solution with a wooden drumstick
(my version of a wooden spoon)

PH read at 6.8
added General Hydroponics PH DOWN to get mixture to 5.3
stirring and adding a few drops at a time, testing in between.
(my system has a tendency to rise during its time in the reservoir
so I started out just below my target of 5.5)

It is IMPORTANT to not mix chemicals outside the water
add the supplements first topping off with base nutrient bringing to target PPM
And for Gods sake adjust PH AFTER all nutrients are added and well mixed.

Thats it. All mixed up and ready to go.
I loosely covered the pail and allowed the mixture to sit in the grow room to acclimate to temperature for todays switch.
When switching I will remove plants/temp probe, empty res, wash thoroughly in sink, change bubble stones,
refill with new nutes, and return pots.

I would like to thank the authors of the Grow FAQ here at riu.org for the wonderful directions in doing this.
Without the knowledge from other growers I would have no idea about the importance of following these steps
or how to even start to go about doing this. This site rules!
**steps down off soap box**
Should take about an hour total to switch out and if there is anything worth mentioning I will take a picture of it.