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    Default SG's 2008 Outdoor Purps and White Russian Breeding



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    Well, this will be my first complete journal from seed to harvest. It will also be my first attempt at making seeds as well as breeding. My goals will be:

    1.) To grow some top quality smoke using minimal additives.

    2.) To produce a fresh, viable seedstock of the White Russian strain.

    3.) To cross the best specimens creating a WR x Purps F1

    4.) To save WR pollen for another cross I have in mind.

    Now let me show you what I will be using.

    The seeds:

    White Russian ( Serious seeds ) English_seriousseeds

    Purps ( BC Seedking )
    Purps Marijuana Seeds




    My soils:

    Fox Farm Light warrior for seedlings
    Fox Farm Ocean Forest and perlite at first transplant ( 3 to 1 mix )
    FoxFarm Soil & Fertilizer Company


    My Nutrients:

    Fox Farms GrowBig for vegatative stage ( 6-4-4 + micro )
    Fox Farms TigerBloom for flowering stage ( 2-8-4 + micro )
    Grandma's Original Molasses for flowering stage

    FoxFarm Soil & Fertilizer Company

    Welcome to B&G Foods, Inc.




    I will be starting the seeds indoors under normal 4' Cool white shop lights. After approximately 10-14 days I will transplant them into 2 gal. pots outside. One or two of the plants will be transplanted again into 8 gal. pots.I will be documenting every aspect of this grow in detail, and with lots of pictures. I will officially start the grow tomorrow when I begin the germination process.






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    Default Germination 4/4/08

    Time to germinate. Now unlike many growers, I avoid the paper towel method and prefer the soak-and-sow method. I took 1 cup for each strain and filled it with distilled water. I do not Ph my soaking water- never have, and I get great germ rates.




    Since we are dealing with a lot less than a gallon of water here, I will dip a toothpick in SuperThrive and stir each glass of water before dropping the seeds in. Then I drop all seeds in the cups and cover with something. In this case I used some bowls since I was in the kitchen. You could also use books, CD cases, etc. I let them soak for 6 hours. It was a little chilly in the kitchen so I placed a heating pad under the glasses and turned it on low. Be careful with water and heating pads kids.



    It has been six hours and it is now time to plant. I am using 16 oz. party cups to start them in as I normally do. The first thing I always do ( When dealing with more than one strain ) is mark the strain name on the cups before I put the dirt or seed in it. This makes sure there are no mistakes or mixups.



    Now that I have the cup marked, I fill it most of the way up with the Light Warrior soil, which I think is the absolute best for seedlings. Nice and airy, and no nutes. Once the cup is filled, I use a pen or pencil to make a very shallow hole in the soil- about 1/4 inch or so. There is no need to put your seeds down deep.


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    Once I have my little pit dug, I drop a seed in. I do not worry about which way the seed is pointing. They know what to do without me helping them. Then I lightly cover with dirt.




    As I fill the cups, I use a dropper to moisten them. I am using the water they soaked in. It still has the trace amounts of SuperThrive in it which certainly won't hurt.




    I just put a few dropper fulls of water on each one, and I make sure most of the water is used in the middle of the cup.



    I just repeat this process until all the seeds are sown. Now it's time for a smoke break. Later on I will bring them in and put them in a dark place with the heating pad. Pics of that part will be put up in my next entry.








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    Default Germination continued 4/6

    It has been a little over two days since I began the germination process. So far nothing has broken the surface. I have watered just once since I planted my seeds due to cooler weather. The cups have remained moist but not soaked since Friday.

    I keep my starter cups on a tray. It makes them much easier to move.



    I also have been too busy to get the shop lights set up so for now the tray of starter cups is living in a closet shelf with a little space heater fan. Since nothing has sprouted yet it's no big deal. I will get the shop lights and area ready tonight just incase I see some baby plants in the morning.



    So there isn't much to report today. I will keep an eye on the starter cups and hopefully have some sprouts in the next day or two. Check my Journal-Matic for today's grow details. It will update daily from now on.



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    Default Germination continued 4/7

    I got my grow room set up for seedlings today. Just two standard 4' shop light fixtures. These seem to work very well so I have stuck with them. I pulled my starter cups out of closet B and used one of the cups to adjust my lights.



    I usually set up the back row a little higher than the front row so I can see them very easily without having to move things around. I set the lights up so that when the seeds break the surface they are a about 3/4 of an inch from the lights. I will keep them at 1 inch or less.



    I gave them another watering and placed them under the lights. I also moved the space heater fan into this area since it still gets cold at night, and the shop lights only raise the room temp. by about 7 deg. F. I will be vegging them for 10 days or so before transplanting and moving them outdoors.



    So far a few of the plants have broken the surface, most of which are the White Russian. This is fine with me since they are much more expensive than the Purps. I also have many more Purps seeds as back-up. The current germ. breakdown is as follows:

    BC Seedking Purps - 1/5 so far
    Serious seeds White Russian - 4/7 so far

    Here are some close-ups of some of the ones that have popped:











    So far so good. I am confident that I will get a good germ rate. If something does go terribly wrong, I will start some more and keep them indoors longer to help them catch up.

    Thanks for stopping by and happy growing.




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    Last edited by shamegame; 04-09-2008 at 10:08 PM.
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    Default Germination Complete!

    Just checked on the plants again. The last two cups that had not sprouted this morning have now done so. A 100% germ rate - Nice way to start the grow...

    So I will be officially going into the grow with 5 Purps and 7 White Russian. I watered today, gave them ~10ml each again. I will leave them on 24/7 for now. I will let them all straighten out tonight and will post pics tomorrow.



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    Default Vegetation Begins!

    Hello again. With the germination phase out of the way we can now get on to the growing. Here are some shots of the new seedlings from this afternoon:










    They are all looking fine. I gave them the same amount of water and raised the lights a half-inch today. I am trying to size up my grow space to decide if I want to keep them indoors longer than I had previously decided. 12 starter cups are no problem, but 12 2 gal pots will mean a full house and them some. My floorspace is 2'+ by 4.5' but I have to keep room for the heater and a fan. Either way I don't have to decide right now so I am not going to worry about it.

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    Default Vegetation Continued 4/10

    Time for today's report. The sprouts are growing well. I increased their water from 10ml to 12ml per plant. I will also raise the lights another 1/2 inch tonight. That's pretty much all there is to report today. As always you can check my Journal-Matic below for today's grow details.




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    Default Vegetation Continued 4/11

    During today's water I gave each plant a once over to check for problems and to record the plant height. Right now the Purps are averaging .5 inches tall compared to the White Russian averaging over an inch.They are all working on their second set of leaves.

    I am keeping the water amount the same for now - 12ml per plant. I had the grow space closed up most of yesterday which caused average temp. and humidity to spike. I now have the air flowing and it is now back to the mid-high 70's most of the time. I will also be switching them to 18/6 starting tomorrow. I want them to grow their rootballs faster so they fill up the cups in the next 6 days or so, which will make for a quick and painless transplant before I head out of town for the weekend.

    In the next week I will be documenting my water prep. + Ph'ing technique, my veg. nute regiment, and transplanting. Be sure to check them out! Here are some pics from today:














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    Default Vegetation Continued 4/12

    I switched the light schedule from 24/7 to 18/6 today. In addition to increased rooting, it is my personal belief that giving the plants a dark period makes them happier and healthier. Some would agree, others would disagree. Also, I have set up my oscillating fan now that the sprouts have established themselves and are a firmly anchored. This is another area where opinions vary. Some folks have a fan blowing on their sprouts from the time they break the surface. I like to give them a few days to firm up.

    I am dead tired, so I will take some pictures tomorrow and we can talk about staggered harvests and medical marijuana plant / product limits.



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    Default Vegetation Continued 4/13

    Welcome again!

    Before I get to today's update and pics I would like to talk about how I will be staggering my harvests this year to make up for having to keep a male for breeding purposes. My current Medical marijuana plant and product limits are the statewide baseline of 6 mature plants OR 12 immature plants AND 8 oz. ( 1 half-pound ) of finished product.

    Right now I have maxed my immature plant limit. My plan is to keep a total of 5 females and 1 male, which will keep my mature plant limit maxed for the outdoor season.

    The other thing you need to understand is the way I grow outdoors. The last couple of years I have force flowered my outdoor plants by keeping them about three feet tall or less and moving them indoors during the flowering stage. I have done this with plants from seed and with clones, which are obviously much more efficient and worthwhile.

    The reasons I do this are numerous. By getting my smaller plants flowered and harvested in late July instead of mid-September I avoid the brunt of the things that can plague most outdoor growers; things like:

    - Severe bug infestations

    - Rain, storms , and cold snaps

    - Bud rot and other mold issues

    - Waiting 5-6 months from seed to harvest

    - Theives (Plants are locked up inside at night - I sleep like a baby all the way to harvest time.)

    Now this piece of mind comes at the cost of having to spend about 5 five minutes every day putting them out in the morning and five minutes bringing them in at night for a total of 10 minutes a day during the flowering stage. Personally, I do not mind doing this but I am sure some people must think I am nuts. And obviously if you are growing commercially you probably don't want to bother with doing this.

    Now I will be force flowering again, except this time I will sex everything, and then put one of the female Purps plants back on a longer light schedule and do a second transplant into an eight gallon container. I will let it grow and flower out normally. This female will obviously get much bigger and will yield more. My harvest plan is as follows:

    4 Females flowered early, harvesting late July - approx. yield: 8 oz.
    1 Female flowering naturally, harvesting late September - approx. yield: 4 oz.
    1 Male destroyed after collecting pollen

    Now, because I will have gone through a good portion of the first harvest by the time the second comes in, I can get 12 ounces instead of 8 ounces from this grow and stay legal at the state level.

    I know this is a bit of reading, but I wanted to let you know why I am doing the things I will be documenting in the coming months.

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    And now on to today's update:

    I increased their water again today because it is HOT. I also raised the lights another half-inch. Everything looks fine, a couple of the seedlings have some deformed leaves but they should grow out of it. As you can see in the first picture, the White Russian on the left are much further ahead than the Purps. The two light fixtures I am using are slightly different, so I switched them today and maybe the Purps will catch up. I had to turn the fan off for a couple of minutes when I shot the pics so the temp spike up to almost 88 F.Here are some pics from earlier:












    Here is one of the deformed Purps. It isn't too bad though:






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    Last edited by shamegame; 04-15-2008 at 12:59 PM.
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