Good information Jackbobjoe! I too have a plant like this that won't see a day of flowering. Here is a picture of the plant that is bag seed and have horrible genetics. As you can see at the bottom it started to be a good plant. As time went by the leaves curled, they were shriveled and many many other deformations in the leaves. Check out my grow journal for beginning pictures of what that plant looked like.

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Sorry i havent updated the last couple of days been busy. So its day 9:

They seem to be doing really well. A root emerged out of one of them yesterday morning. Must have happened over night. This was on the healthier of the two. Then later that day the second seedling followed with emerging roots. So i transplanted them into larger rockwool cubes. Although they didnt fit perfectly so i filled the gaps with perlite. Hope that was ok?

Anyway photos below. The last set o photos showed a big contrast between the two plants. Where one seemed to be struggling alot more than the other. Notice the difference now.

Below: This is a side shot of which used to be the strongest looking one.


Side shot of what used to be the runt, as you can see she has caught up in height aswel as her leaves.


Fan leaves really beginning to develop:


As you can see the leaves have improved alot from the last update.


So far im pretty happy, seems to be going well
Love checking up on them each morning, its surprising the difference just over night.

Oh and by the way the light schedule is 22:2 And im still keeping the light ridiculously close, its a fluro so heat isnt an issue. But is there any point when i should stop keeping it close?

Cheers for checkin out my journal

Around 3 weeks old, you can probably start moving the CFLs at the max I'd say is 4-5" away. Until then I'd stick with the 1-3". They look so innocent when they are young. Keep up the good work!

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Alright Awesome cheers! Trying to keep these babies as short as possible

If height is an issue for you, I'd suggest reading up on tying down your plants. This works great if you have limited space to work with. Just tie down the tops of your plants and as the days/weeks pass you can slightly tighten the string. At a certain point your plant will be almost horizontal and it'll focus most of the growth on the sides and not the tops. Hope this was helpful!

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alright cheers mate i'll look into it. i didnt realize tying down would help the development on the sides as well. Though it was literally a way of bending your plant into any shape to fit your room lol.

my friend grew his shit that way and got some buds that were in the wierdest shape I've ever seen. He had some in the shapes of J's and S's , it was pretty intense. Just all depends on how it's tied down.

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Day 11:

Seem to be doing well. The plant that was struggling at first is doing really well. Is taller than the other an its leaf development has over taken the other plant. I added a little bit of Rooting gel to some water and watered this plant alone with this solution for an experiment in another thread. And these could be the results. After that watering its really perked up and gone for it.

To make it easier for me to describe which plant is which in photos. I'll call the plant that was originally healthy and doing better "A" and the plant that seemed to be struggling "B"

Anyway heres some photos:

"A" is on the left here. As you can see "B" has over taken just in height.


This is "B"


"A"


Another shot of "B"


Am i wrong in counting eleven segments on the leaves? Isnt that way too many?

Day 12:

Things seem to be going well. I was surprised today when i lift up the rock wool cubes to find large roots emerging from the bottom! Two strong roots on one, and four on the other. Was caught by surprise so i only have one pot ready... So i have planted one of them in their final pot today. I was going to transfer the other one into a slightly smaller pot for now but thought it wouldnt be worth it if i am to re pot it in a day or so.

So currently one is in a large pot where as the other is still in the rock wool cube on top of the pot to get closer to the light. The one in the plant pot is "B"

My grow area is getting too crowded now need a re think asap, you can see from the picture below lol:


There are a couple of shelves above it, so might segregate the Salvia plants etc to one shelf and these babies on their own. Will mean i can keep the salvia on 18/6 when i put these to 12/12.

Below is how the light is being left for them at the mo:






In the pot, i have lots of gravel at the bottom of the pot for good drainage, i am using miracle grow compost with perlite. Still only using water to water them as im guessing the soil now has enough nutrients.

Any tips would be great, not sure if im doing this right... lol

Everything looks great, I've never personally tried growing in the medium you're using but it sounds good! You're gonna be suprised at the growth in the next 10 days! I'll be checking in on your babies! Take care bro!

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