LED/Fluoresent Cabinet Grow Snow White/Dutch Dragon - Page 3

cruzer101 · #21 04-05-2008, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by specialkayme

Great thread. Good luck!

Cruzer, do you mind if I pm you and ask how you built those LED lights? I'm kinda a slow learner.

Tell me about it, It took me five hours to solder the first panel.

No I dont mind.
Here is a link to the site I got the panels Homegrownlights.com

Thanks for the comments guys,

cruzer101 · #22 04-05-2008, 02:38 AM

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Day 32
Added my gallon of distilled water and lowered ph to 5.9
We are running at 700ppms. I know it is lower than before.
I am kinda weening them off the grow nutes. Bloom nutes next week.
Humidity levels are dropping, I thought I had a handle on that.

These pics are with the all lights on

Its getting crowded in there. I am re-thinking flowering here.
We still have about a foot of vertical space available

Actually this was designed to be a Veg Monster.
Simply a way I could create a great root system in a short amount of time.
So far that has worked pretty well but I need to do something here pretty soon.

I think I will take a ride to my buds house this weekend and get that dam light mover up
So then we have a flower room back up and running

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cruzer101 · #23 04-07-2008, 04:45 PM

Day 33

OK
Off we go!
As I mentioned earlier I put grow bags inside the containers for easy transplant.
I removed the bags from the containers and put the girls in a box and put them in my trunk.

Its about an hours drive.

He lives on the other side of that lake you see in the distance.

OK we start with ventilation, cut a hole in ceiling and blow the insulation up into the attic.

Mount the blower and a 2x4 to mount the light rail to.

We got an intellidrive 3.5 mover and a 1000w halide at 3100k temp.
we will add the two HPS later, those will be stationary.

Cleaned out the waterfarms and set them in place.

We modified the waterfarms to a drip system.
All I did was plug up the bottom of the watering columns
and add a water line to where the air used to go.

Now its time to transplant.

Took a plant and held the top of the bag together and turned it upside down.
Cut the bottom of the bag and set it into the waterfarm.

Filled the rest of the container with hydroton and pulled the bag up over the plant.

Works great. This way I didn't disturb the roots much.

If you remember earlier I started with 2 Dragon clones and got one mother.
Here is a shot of her now. 5 weeks from clone

Its time to take some cuttings and add her to the flowering plants.
I didn't have her in a bag, Here is a shot of the root ball.

Adding the water feed to the bottom of the rock wool cube works great.

OK this is what we have so far.

Upper left is the Apollo, lower right is the Dragon, the rest are the Snow White.
We have the 13 gallon res under the table with a 550 gph water pump.
I made a 5 foot long manifold and attached the lines.
We started them on week four of floras nuts with Diamond nectar
PPMS at 1160 and PH at 5.5 to start,.

We figure by taking the cuttings from the upper stems we will slow her growth down a bit
and let the others catch up some. Last time I used Olivia's gel but it was no good because
I didn't put it in the refrigerator. This time I got some Clonex gel and solution.

I soaked the cuttings

I use rapid rooter plugs because you don't need to soak them in Ph 5.5 water overnight
and the don't retain as much water as rock wool. (I always over water rock wool)
The trick to it is you split them down the center so the cutting touches the medium.

Time to prepare the cuttings I will show you how I do one.

Trim the leaves that will stay

Remove the last one

cut on a 45 degree angle right below the the node.
I usually use a razor blade but I couldn't do that and take a pic at the same time.

Then I slice the stem up the center and scrape the sides.
(This is best done under water)

Dip it into the cloning gel, up to where its going into the medium.

Place it into the rapid rooter plug and give it 24 hours of darkness.

Here is a shot of the next batch. There is eight Snow White and six Dragons.

The small containers are actually jiffy containers but they hold the rapid rooter plugs together nicely.
I got them sitting in a tray on a heat mat so the dome will seal and hold in the humidity.

I will water these by hand every other day until I see roots coming out the bottom.
Then into the 3 inch rock wool cubes and Start all over again.
But that will have to be another story or this will go on forever.

This journal will cover the Snow White, Apollo and the first four Dragons that I did with my DIY bubbler
They are now 3 weeks old.
I will veg them for another couple weeks then they will join the Snow White.

cruzer101 · #24 04-15-2008, 02:22 AM

Day 40
Flushed out the res and added flora nutes; Week 4 again.
Let them get used to there new room before cutting the nitrogen
About 1100 PPMs also Diamond Nectar and ph at 6.0

We put up some walls this weekend our flower room is almost finished.

Made the frame out of 2x2 and used styrofoam insulation for the walls.

I will bring some Mylar next week to do the inside walls.

We just tacked the walls on with long finishing nails, That way we have easy access if we need.
This is a much better idea than plastic. Cost about $10 a panel but I think its worth it.
Now we will be able to control the climate better and add co2

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cruzer101 · #25 04-16-2008, 01:11 AM

I got another light for my veg monster, Sun Systems Sun Blaze 24
It's T5 high output, 24" X 4 tubes in the fixture.The reflector is awesome looks like three times the light.
I got two 6500k and two 3000k in there. Now I am trying to figure out what works best.

I may end up re-working the led array to fit better. For now its side lighting.

These are the four Dragon clones. They are about four weeks here.
They were transplanted to the grow bags/containers today.
flora nova grow nutes with Diamond necter
900PPMs and 5.9ph

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Pseudo.Botany · #26 04-16-2008, 01:17 AM

I have to say Cruzer, that is a wicked cool grow room! I want one! hahaha

Pseudo.Botany · #27 04-16-2008, 01:20 AM

Out of curiosity how do you determine the ration of Blue/Red LED lights?

specialkayme · #28 04-16-2008, 02:39 PM

Hey Cruzer,
I have been reading up on cloneing. I havn't done it myself, but plan on doing it in about three weeks. I've never heard of anyone cutting up the stem, or scraping the sides. Can you explain why you do this, if there is an article that explains it, or the benefits of it?

Thanks man

cruzer101 · #29 04-18-2008, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Pseudo.Botany

Out of curiosity how do you determine the ration of Blue/Red LED lights?

Hey thanks for stoppin by,

I just used what I saw that worked. From what I understand 25/75 blue to red is best for all around growing. More blue for veg and more red for flower. The thing is that there are four wavelengths you want to hit. two red and two blue. I still havent found any one light sold that hits them.
The procyon 100 is the closest thing to a perfect led lamp out there.... in my opinion. But at $600 its a little steep for me.
Im just experimenting with different light sources until I get it right or the procyon come down in price.

Here is a link to some test grows that got me started. Click here

cruzer101 · #30 04-18-2008, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by specialkayme

Hey Cruzer,
I have been reading up on cloneing. I havn't done it myself, but plan on doing it in about three weeks. I've never heard of anyone cutting up the stem, or scraping the sides. Can you explain why you do this, if there is an article that explains it, or the benefits of it?

Thanks man

Hi kayme,

Let's see if this works...

Yep.

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