Subbed up... curious to see it, but not going back to miracle gro regardless![]()
THE TEST-
Miracle Grow and MG plant food plus some cheap kelp fertilizer verses FFOF and Cornicopia line of nutes along with Nitrozime and Earth Juice Catylyst. I have used the latter for a few years now (owner of the grow store near me makes the Cornicopia line) with good results.
THE SUBJECTS-
Group A...6 NHK aka Neighborhood Kush (OG x (LLOG x Chemdawg). Breeder is Tryna. These are fifth generation clones and stay very green until latter stages of flower. Just a little nute shy I would say they are average or maybe a little light on the nutes is what she likes. Flower time is 8 weeks.
Three of the NHK have been placed in Miracle Grow Potting Soil with added perlite and lime and the other three are in FFOF with added perlite and lime.
Group B...6 Grape Apollo (Gorilla Grape x Apollo) that will be ready to be potted in another week. Breeder is Frost Bros.I'll do the same dealio with them...3 in MG and 3 in Ocean Forest. The GA cut that I kept is Apollo dom but has the resin production and taste of the GG. She is a big time N hog and can handle heavy doses of nutes without burning. Flower time for her is 48-50 days.
...Initial thoughts on the MG soil is that it's very heavy and the large #3 perlite that I use is too big to be used alone. The smaller size perlite along with the #3 would be better. I would think the roots would have a hard time breathing in that soil especially with no additional areator amendment
The competition...
My line-up...
Soaking up some filtered sunlight...
Grape Apollos on top were put in a week after the kushes on the bottom...
MG on the left OF on the right, cuttings picked at random...
MG soil on the left with the green lettering and OF with the black lettering...
Comments welcome let the games begin!
Last edited by Highlanders cave; 10-20-2012 at 06:53 PM.
Subbed up... curious to see it, but not going back to miracle gro regardless![]()
Sorry folks I'm not sure how this thread ended up in the Organics section as it was posted last night in the Advanced section. If it was moved by anyone then this documentation is over I don't put up with that shit for a second. If it was just a stoner moment on my part and it's my mistake then I apologize for the little rant![]()
Subbed! ....Gonna try MG nutes too?
Hey T how's it going. I am using MG nutes along with some inexpensive kelp fertilizer, its in the first pic. I don't like the consistancy of the mg soil, it needs to be much more areated I'm thinking. Haha MG nutes are almost free lol, like under 5 bucks for a big box. Should last a long time considering it calls for a 1/2 teaspoon once every 2 weeks.
Yeah if a mod wanted to stick this someplace else other than Advanced they could have picked a better place to put it,,,Organics is the last place it should be
I can see the difference in FF and MG just off looks. i hate how Miracle grow gets kinda muddy, it has a weird consistency. I had no idea you like to do experiments n shit.
I'll prolly start recycling my soil and add amendments to it like you had mentioned. I have plenty of it lol. Use it outside in my flower gardens and there is a bunch out in the barn.
I got the idea from ubs' thread on snake oils and I have been noticing how expensive a lot of the stuff in the grow stores are vs basically the same shit you can get anywhere for much less. Of course some fining tuning will have to be done but that's what this thread is about.
Now how do I get it out of this section lol?
I agree about snake oils and such. But one thing in life i did learn is. You get what you pay for, eh. As far as soil. I may add perlite if needed but other than that i'm good. all the amendment condition the soil almost back to new. i also add old cloning plugs from harvested plants in for aeration, or any coco seedling pot in my soil for aeration. Wish you and your lady could get down here, lol . got 4 tix to a theme park (scareowinds) but nobody to go with. i went once this year but i left my cam, definitely pics this time. seen some creepy looking monsters.
The two main issues I have with miracle gro are taste and health.... can almost guarantee you it's not going to taste as good as organic. More than that, and I know smoking at all isn't exactly health, but there's a difference in what you smoke... and i'm not hearing anyone talk about the benefits of smoking osmocote (or whatever they call it) in your buds. Not saying all non-organics are bad, just that i don't trust that those nutes are not gonna give me cancer. There's evidence that smoking cannabis actually fights lung tumor formation -- i'm not gonna negate it by smoking chemicals. How do you flush a 6 month time release pellet??
It's also not necessarily an organic vs nonorganic issue when it comes to price... it's more of a hydro store vs non-hydro store issue... the bigger stores sell organic amendments and soils that don't cost an arm and a leg... hell i'd rather grow the miracle grow organic soil than the osmocote crapin fact i may have to do a side by side on it... it's definitely cheaper than roots
i think i'm just gonna work on recycling.
MG organic sucks, if you get the one for potted plants. scotts as well. OH yea HC im assuming nitrozyme is an enzyme that will help with old soil as well. eating roots n fibers.
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