Getting setup for a new grow, 5g Hempy w/ Third Dimension & Wappa in the
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Getting setup for a new grow, 5g Hempy w/ Third Dimension & Wappa
This would be Day 1 veg from rooted clones, I had 11 going with anonymous bag seed but to save myself the hermie heartache I decided to just lose them and go with these 6 clones I have. I am going to be introducing a couple more strains soon but can only have a maximum of 12 plants so not any significant numbers maybe 1 of each for the next. I have (3) Third Dimensions and (3) Wappa going 2 of each in 5g and the other 2 are in 1.5g that I had from before. There's 2 of those bag seed plants hiding behind it all but ill be keeping a close eye on them (they are NY Diesel) my room is not built yet, I have a lot of the framework done (it's just going to be 8x8 plus the veg area you see here which does not take from that space.
Currently all I have is a 600W MH running at the moment @ 75% and am planning on adding 2 600's for the flowering area within 4-5 weeks from now (when I'll probably flip I am guessing) I will have just a few going and every 2-3 weeks add another plant or two just so I can keep myself busy and not have to do everything once every 2 months. I have a 470cfm carbon filter, hydrofarm 6" fan and a various other stuff but nothing is 'in place' yet, I may get an in-room portable A/C unit as I am thinking about running vertical bare bulbs in my flowering room (depending on how I train the plants) I have always wanted to try that configuration.
Wanted to go Co2 originally but right now I am not going to put all my focus on a sealed design, plus I don't know if in-room window vented air conditioners have any kind of seperation inside them or if I'd just lose all my Co2 from the exhaust hose... always wanted to know never got any solid answer. I can't go with a minisplit I am not trying to get too carried away, a $400-500 portable unit would work just fine and be simple. Just wish I could keep my Co2 if I wanted to go that route, I know I can hid mid 80's but I have trouble believing I'd even hold that too easily lol.
Oh yeah, Nutes... GH Flora 3-part standard stuff, Rapid Root supplement (black bottle, cant remember exact name, friend gave me), Floralicious Plus (friend gave me), New calmag plus (friend gave me) and some very old Liquid Karma that 'seems fine' I decided to try it for one feeding and see if it has any ill effects, it's a few years old but looks as if it always did. Might be garbage but whatever, if it doesn't hurt the plants I won't worry too much and if it does I'll toss it. My buddy gave me some Pineapple Rush too but no clue if I am going to run something like that or not.
So... here we go... hopefully things run smoothly, it's been years.
Temps were a little up there when I snapped the pics too, and that last one does not have dark/discolored leaves at all, it's just the camera doing a poor job of working with that crazy light. Just fed them again too with some H2o2 in there, sucks waiting for roots to reach the reservoir that's for sure.
Last edited by DrGribble; 08-26-2012 at 06:49 PM.
Here's 2 shots of the space I have to work with, still framing and putting up walls... it's 8x8 plus the veg area... some random crap just laying around at the moment too.
Beginning of Day 3 / End of Day 2... you can see the smaller 1.25/5'ish hempys are taking off a lot quicker than the 5g variations, roots must be nestled into a nice moist nutrient rich environment in the smaller ones but the larger ones have a lot longer ways to travel. I think the 5g plants are going to get nice sized if I let them though. It's funny how sad the 5g plants look in comparison, none of them look 'great' right now and I am sure I have nutrient quirks to work out for sure but they're alive so that's good news.
Honestly I don't know if it's 'really' day 4 or day 5 now, I may have had the days off from the start... but here's day 4/5 just a couple shots, the smaller hempy's still growing the quickest obviously but I feel that the larger ones are just about there as some seem to be reaching a bit more than drooping at times, especially when I have the light at 100% I sometimes run it @ 300/450W to keep temps in the high 70s as I do not have an air cooled hood or anything, very seriously considering getting a smaller (12k or so) mini-split in here but it's just way more fuss than I wanted to deal with... It's more hassle than cost to me since I won't have someone down here installing it into my grow room.
Leaning heavily towards a DIY window unit with fabricated ducting for intake/exhaust mated with some hydrofarm fans or something to do the work and get that hot air gone fast... then draining the condensate into a drum with a hole cut a few feet up from the floor so the overflow will drain into my basement drain that would be shared with the washer and so on... that way I always have excellent water I can use.
Perlite looks kind of nasty btw due to my nutrients, I got some of the 'thick & nasty' ones in my mix as well... not just the nice clean crap lol.
I am using (depending on the situation, I don't always use it all)
GH 3-Part Flora series (grow/bloom/micro)
GH Floralicious Plus
GH Pineapple Rush
GH RapidStart Root Enhancer
Botanicare LiquidKarma (old stuff, just have it down here too... also have their full line but it's old as well)
and I also have PH control solutions, Peroxide if needed, a Dehumidifier is making most of my water for me but I have a spigot setup to get it when it can't keep up the work. I have a few other random things that I cannot seem to remember off the top of my head too but for the most part that's about all I am working with at the moment. I am about to order 2 more 600's, unsure if I will use hoods or not as I wanted to go vertical... my 'ideal' setup I put together in my head was using 2 air cooled hoods a couple feet apart from each other and a vertical 600 hanging between them lower to get the entire surrounding plants. This is exactly why I would need an air conditioner in an 8x8 space, I want to supplement Co2 as well, however I am not setup for it yet... I have a tough time believing I could maintain 85 or lower with all those lights going so I think I'd definitely need a moderate sized AC.
I know this is a very boring journal right now too... I am hoping you guys will start stopping in when you see how much work I actually plan to put into this though... I figure within a month, or shortly thereafter I will have it pretty far along to where flowering by then. Not sure if I am going to veg for 4 weeks, 6 weeks, what yet but I do find joy in training the plants more than just about anything else so I may veg for a while. Individual SCROGs was always the plan but I don't have enough room to navigate the buckets w/ scrogs attached outside of veg area and into flower area due to the framing... sucks.
Got out the Duct Tape for some LST on the two smaller containers, also fim'd a couple of the plants but for the most part waiting until they get a little bit larger so I can do more easily to them. Here's a few 'DAY 5' shots. It's a little hot in there at the moment (82F) so I can see they're not too keen on it, I have to turn the light down I think it's at 100% right now. Seems to go over better in the evening but I am in a basement so the climate does not fluctuate much down here regardless of what time it is.
2 more of my 600W lights are on the way along with some testing meters, room setup supplies and so forth... should be ready to run a full cycle within a few weeks I am thinking but will be continually adding advanced elements as I see fit and have money for.
Day 7 updates... you can see one of my plants (nearest to me) is looking pretty rough, I flushed them all today so we'll see if that one bounces back or not. I think that thermometer is highly innaccurate and reads a few degrees higher than it actually should. I compared it to my homes thermostat and it's not comparable in readings anyway... says 75 when it's actually 71-72 in the house so I am hoping when it says low 80's it's actually OK, planning on Co2 anyway though.
Last edited by DrGribble; 09-01-2012 at 08:36 PM.
Got all 3 of my 600's now, who knows may add another one eventually -- Also bought a new window A/C unit for about $150 (6000BTU) so I am hoping it will be sufficient enough to maintain low 80's during my lights on, plan on building Intake/Exhaust ducting and using a 6" Hydrofarm fan to suck the heat from the back with passive intake based on other DIY write ups I have seen, hoping it gets the job done considering I failed at finding a decent used unit.
Last edited by DrGribble; 09-02-2012 at 05:37 PM.