VV is singing the blues. From seed to Perpetual Weed. - Page 2

VictorVIcious · #11 03-07-2008, 01:03 AM

I used the peet pellet for my first big grow, they worked fine. My favorite is the Rapid Rooters. I have used rockwool cubes and round rock wool plugs. All of them work, its more personal preference and the system, medium and pots or not that you are going to finish them in. Are you going to do a soil grow? Or one of the Hydro methods? VV

cbraaszsy · #12 03-07-2008, 01:45 AM

with peet pellets is slow rooting.. havent tried rockwool yet but it just makes sense lighter meium eaier to push through.. maybe? will know within the next couple weeks as i'll be getting rockwool

VictorVIcious · #13 03-08-2008, 08:19 AM

I apologize, I am a little behind. Between harvesting and the seedlings and having to use two computers I have been busy. On Wed or Thurday can't remember which the plants looked a little dry. Being the anal retentive sort I wanted to make sure and the way you do that is with a moisture meter. This one came from wallyworld less than $5.00. You just push it down into the soil, make sure to check your depth, you want it at least 1/2 way down in the pot, and then follow what it says. I didn't water that day and since this is the number one problem (over watering) for new growers it makes me feel like an 'experienced grower'.
I had been looking for some caster for my vegging stand and ran into a good deal on them at Lowe's. These came in a package of four for $13.99. They are made to screw into the bottom of the stainless steel shelving they sell. A few little part and now they go on 1" pvc. I paid more than that for some of the others I bought and these are better casters, swilval and brakes.

VictorVIcious · #14 03-08-2008, 09:37 AM

I have been able to keep the temps in the seedling stand at 74 to 80 degrees and the rh is between 40 and 60. Friday when I looked at them they looked a little dry, what to do? Well, lets get them, out and take a closer look. You can see the height, and here you can see some slightly dropping leaves, a sure sign they need a little water? Maybe. How can we be sure? I know, we have that moisture meter thingy, lets try that. Well, it does like it needs a little, and since all of the plants are in the same condition we can go ahead and water them all. Here we go, on the road again......turn the page...VV

VictorVIcious · #15 03-08-2008, 10:06 AM

...here we go up on stage....So...we estimate it is going to take us about 2 liters, 1.8 oz more than a quart, either will work, too water the 24 plants we ended up with from 30 seeds. Operator error can be blamed for three of those six loses.
For all of our examples we will use a tablespoon= 1/2 oz=3 teaspoons=15 ml. We get our additives together and follow the manufactures recommended doses. To our 2ltrs or one quart we add:10 mil (2tspns) Fossil feul at a cost of $.16, 3/8 tspn (2ml) Root Stimulant at a cost of $.08, 1/8 tsp Super Thrive (couple of drops) at a cost of $.06, 1/2 tsp (between 2 and 3 ml.) Dark Energy at a cost of $.10 and 1 tspn (5 ml.) Nitrozime at a cost of $.33 ( expensive shit ). You will notice, none of these are nutrients, they are all additives. They perform different functions by supplying different things your plants can use to take up and distribute the nutrients you will be giving them. All of them could be duplicated with natural products if you wanted to do the research and had the room and facilities to accomplish it. This watering is going to cost $.73 or about $.03/ plant. I think I will just get what the experts have developed. ....just the same old cliches, are you a woman or a man... Turn the page... VV

VictorVIcious · #16 03-08-2008, 10:24 AM

....Now we are ready to water. I use a baster for watering seedlings until the second transplant, its about 50 ml. and i use GK's method. I give them one baster of our solution and then wait before giving a second basting. Always check your tray for runoff, do not let the bottom of the pots sit in water. Our runoff was less than 100ml. from the two trays which would tell us we made a pretty good estimate of the amount of water for this first watering after the transplant, and that we should probably plan on 3 liters (1 1/2 qts.) for the next watering.
I am not sure if this will show in the picture, you will start to notice that after a few waterings, the soil will start to pull away from the sides of the pot. This would allow air to get to the roots as they reach the side of the pot. SO you want to rough up that soil a little, I just stick a fork in it, soil growers should do this right up til harvest. Stick a fork in it...I'm Done. VV

HotNSexyMILF · #17 03-08-2008, 06:20 PM

Amazing VV.. just amazing..

The details to your success will serve well for everyone here. =)

<pulls up a seat>

VictorVIcious · #18 03-08-2008, 08:31 PM

thanx for your confidence, I am still a litlle nervous with all the changes I have made. 24 hour light instead of 18/6, all of the additives. I am just using the information I have gathered on rollitup and showing what I do to accomplish what they have suggested. The cost analyisis will be fun for me. I was really suprised that it cost less than $1.00 for all the additives for those seedlings. That will increase of course as they grow and use more water. we probably have 2 more watering before nutes will be introduced. I think I will post prices for the quantity bought and then the cost per ounce breakdown. GK is back from India I think and answered the question about nutes in his book. VV

HotNSexyMILF · #19 03-08-2008, 10:50 PM

I've always used 24/0.. you'll be fine. =) I have tons of faith in you.

Looking forward to the results and price breakdown for the additives as well.. I'm looking to try some new stuff. =) Lookin' good.

felix · #20 03-09-2008, 08:24 AM

cool!

i just got a small pack of those pellets to try out some clones in. i've read they work well.