Page 1 of 7 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 64
Like Tree13Likes
Grow Journals

First shot using teas from worm compost high in P and K for BLOOM BOOSTER side/side

in the

The Grow Room

forums; Hi everybody. I'm starting a new project, so I thought I'd start a journal. I believe with all of my ...
  1. #1
    420 TIME Stoner + WitchDoctor +'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012

    Location
    Midwest
    Posts
    632

    Default First shot using teas from worm compost high in P and K for BLOOM BOOSTER side/side

    Hi everybody. I'm starting a new project, so I thought I'd start a journal. I believe with all of my heart that I can get through veg and flower with worm compost for NPK, and by get through I mean CONQUER!

    I am, however, talking about more of a "designer" compost. Cannabis is a special plant that requires special care, and I think that there are enough of out here using plants that are good for Cannabis plants that we can figure out the best things to compost.

    For months now I've been into worm-composting, I now have to stackable units and I'm going to build something bigger soon to start composting on a larger scale. This is what I'm using now.
    2012-05-20 08.41.30.jpg2012-05-20 08.41.41.jpg


    The original plan was to use some high PK compost in the soil mix as well, but the worms couldn't make it in time. They'll have enough to make teas however. If I don't get the results I'm looking for I will do another journal using compost in the actual mix, and then so on from there until I figure it out. Worm compost is VERY rich in NPK, depending on what you feed them of course. Here's the tea recipe I'm going to use all throughout flowering (feed/tea/feed/tea) until the final week.

    4 gallons of rain water
    2 cups of high PK worm compost
    1 cup of worm castings from bag
    1 cup of worm leachate
    1 cup of Alaskan Forest Humus
    1/2 cup of Alfalfa
    1/2 cup of Humic
    3 TBSP of unsulphered Molasses
    2 TBSP of Agave



    I just flipped them last night, so today is the first day of 12/12. I also tried something kinda new, LSTing it right before flipping by tying down the longer branches to the bottom ring of the tomato cage to hopefull encourage some more growth before flowering starts. Here's a pic.
    2012-06-05 20.02.40.jpg2012-06-05 15.26.07.jpg

    I had a little N def with them in veg, ran out of Nature's Nectar N and Vega at the same time and had to wait for them to ship...it was a bummer. But they're doing better. I fed them last night, they'll get AACT in a couple days, then another heavy feeding with some N....and then I'll start feeding with the high PK teas for the rest of flower.

    Oh, did I mention this is a side by side?? Two side by sides to be exact.

    I've got 5 OG Kush in this room, and 4 White Rhinos. So the OG in the middle is just extra.

    2 OG Kush are going to get ONLY the high PK tea for Phosphorus and Potassium...aside from what may be in my base nutes. But they will be getting no additional seaweed, guano, manure, rock phosphate, or any other P product. And 2 OG Kush will be getting Humboldt Natural Bloom 0-10-0 for P

    In addition to this side by side, 2 White Rhinos will be getting the high PK tea for P, and 2 White Rhinos will be getting just the ASHES from high PK food scraps. These ashes should be immediately available for nutrient uptake as well as the compost tea.....but we'll see huh?!?

    What else....oh yea. They're under a 600w HPS covering a 4'x4' area.

    Nutes: Bio Flores is my base. Also using Bio Root and Bio Bud. I think that's it except for stuff I throw in the teas...

    Thanks for checking this out, I'll continue to post pics and updates over the next 2 1/2 months.

    EDIT: Forgot my mix!

    Soilless Mix= aprox. 40 gallons

    Dolomite lime –1 cup (I use Epsoma)
    Neem cake – 1 cup (http://www.neemresource.com)
    Karanja cake – 1 cup (http://www.neemresource.com)
    Mykos – 1 cup (I use Xtreme Gardening Mykos, awesome and cheap. I also reapply with their Mykos WP early flower the feeding after a good P dose. I also use Roots Oregonism on rooted cuttings.)
    Coffee/tea grounds – 1 cup
    Greensand – 1 cup

    ¼ bale of compressed coco chips (I’m using HydroFarm Planting Chips, but I’m looking for a better chip product that’s still OMRI. I just the chips instead of Perlite. Maybe you can find a better brand of chips)
    2 bales compressed coco coir fibers (GO CocoTek OMRI coir)
    2 gallons peat (Home Depot, which I hate but is far closer to me than any other store, has 3 cu. Ft. bales of OMRI peat for 10 bucks, but it’s seasonal.)
    3 gallons EWC
    1 gallons worm compost (I’d have used 2 gallons or more if I had enough)
    Last edited by + WitchDoctor +; 06-06-2012 at 05:42 PM.
    Slipon and Fresh 2 De@th like this.

  2. #2
    Ganja Smoker Pot Head Kalyx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012

    Location
    New Mexico
    Posts
    365

    Default

    Nice! I want to start vermiculture too, just have got to get a bin going. I don't compost well enough to use it in my indoor and I think the worms will do a better job than my outdoor 'crobes can. Do you think the premade bins are worth it for simplicity/cost to get started? +Subbed

    Its nice to know someone else on here is working towards a high quality, good yield, vegan AND organic grow on RIU too!
    + WitchDoctor + likes this.

  3. #3
    420 TIME Stoner + WitchDoctor +'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012

    Location
    Midwest
    Posts
    632

    Default

    Thanks Kalyx! Yes, I totally think it's worth buying one, unless you have the time to make one yourself AND make it stackable AND have a spout on it for the Leachate. That stuff is awesome, and one of my favorite things about the one I use. I use the Worm-composter 360 with 2-3 extra trays. I ordered it from unclejimswormfarm.com because I got half off my worms for doing it at the same time. Now I use two composters though obviously. But just about every time I make compost tea there's at least a full cup of Leachate and all I have to do is twist the handle on the spout.

    Also, when the worms finish composting a bottom tray and the eggs all hatch, they just crawl into the next one. So every week I fill a tray with kitchen scraps that we save in containers in the fridge, and the always start coming up within a couple days. It makes things really easy for me.

    Picked up some of that GH Florablend...looks to be mostly organic and it's vegan, and looks to promise a yield increas lol, but don't they all. Either way I'm gonna start using it.

    By the way, I don't know if you use coco in your mix Kalyx, but that GO CocoTek is OMRI now and comes in a coir bale instead of all those bricks. Got some for $9 a bale today, and got almost 5 cubic feet for $18 bucks lol, and it's good coco.
    Smart enough to know better. Strong enough to do better.

    http://www.rollitup.org/grow-journal...teas-worm.html

  4. #4
    420 TIME Stoner + WitchDoctor +'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012

    Location
    Midwest
    Posts
    632

    Default

    Oh, duh! I forgot to put the mix in the first post. I'll edit it.
    Smart enough to know better. Strong enough to do better.

    http://www.rollitup.org/grow-journal...teas-worm.html

  5. #5
    Stoner Stoner ottawaliquid's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011

    Posts
    803
    Journal Entries
    6

    Default

    Cool.. I'm in
    + WitchDoctor + likes this.

  6. #6
    Ganja Smoker Pot Head Kalyx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012

    Location
    New Mexico
    Posts
    365

    Default

    I've never used florablend. It is basically a knock off of Botanicare's first big seller, Pure Blend Original. If you are brewing tea your AACT will be vastly superior to any of these 'tea concentrate in a bottle' products. They are nice to have around if you forget to start the brew on time and are in a pinch.

    Yes I do use coco coir in my mix. I like it in addition to peat or as a complete replacement. The omri bales are a great way to go. I think I'm gonna source all OMRI inputs for the next few rounds. It would be cool to have certified organic nugs!
    + WitchDoctor + likes this.

  7. #7
    420 TIME Stoner + WitchDoctor +'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012

    Location
    Midwest
    Posts
    632

    Default

    Mine are certified organic now lol. Except for the BioRoot which I'm running out and replacing. I'm surprised people are holding on so hard to peat, I'm having a much easier time using coco. The sad thing is my certified organic soil mix with all it's amendments is still about half of what Fox Farm and Roots and all these companies are charging for soil, and you still need amendments...

    I picked it up because it was $11 lol. I didn't think it was a bottled tea product though, is it? We'll see. I haven't been concerned with yields for awhile, but now I'm not growing enough to keep up with consumption lol.

    I'm also trying my hand at growing one plant under 600 watts. It's gotta veg for another week or two before I flip it. But I wanna see what I can get out of it, just because I have an extra plant with no home and no companions.
    Smart enough to know better. Strong enough to do better.

    http://www.rollitup.org/grow-journal...teas-worm.html

  8. #8
    Teaching How To Roll Mr. Ganja
    Join Date
    Nov 2011

    Location
    Due to be in a town near you
    Posts
    1,238

    Default

    subbed. i was just thinking about this same idea but thought against it due to yield factor. let us know if the decline in yield is a major factor with this all out organic grow.

    thanks for sharing.

  9. #9
    420 TIME Stoner + WitchDoctor +'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012

    Location
    Midwest
    Posts
    632

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Fresh 2 De@th View Post
    subbed. i was just thinking about this same idea but thought against it due to yield factor. let us know if the decline in yield is a major factor with this all out organic grow.

    thanks for sharing.
    I will for sure. To be honest I'm not expecting to be able to get the same yield from just using teas, but I'm confident that once I have enough compost to use in the soil mix I'll be able to do this for sure. So if not this round, the next batch.

    But hey, I might surprise myself.
    Fresh 2 De@th likes this.
    Smart enough to know better. Strong enough to do better.

    http://www.rollitup.org/grow-journal...teas-worm.html

  10. #10
    Ganja Smoker Pot Head Kalyx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012

    Location
    New Mexico
    Posts
    365

    Default

    Can you give me more info on the support cages you have? I really like how the vertical supports are straight up and down but they kink out on the bottom to hold a larger plant all within. This would be great for me as I like to rotate my plants daily. Angled bamboo can make this a pain when they are in a tight canopy/big.

    Question on your mix: Have you considered upping the amendment dosages? I add similar amounts to an already hot bagged mix (FFOF, Roots) and the veganic ladies seem to handle it well. (Matt is convinced all bagged mixes need amending except cannas BT plus which is a phantom in this country). Wish I had my own worm farm to boost any mix tho!

Page 1 of 7 123 ... LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •