A Tale of The Tape HPA vs 21st Century Flood and Drain

TB From what I am seeing, closely following your threads, it's a hard nut for you guys, too.

Not yet ready to scrap my stripped down hpa version, but miracles will need to happen in quality v my much simpler, and less finicky F & D.

In the end, we experiment to find what does/doesn't work for us. I would say without a doubt the stroll down hpa lane has made me a more knowledgeable grower

Originally Posted by PetFlora

TB From what I am seeing, closely following your threads, it's a hard nut for you guys, too.

Not yet ready to scrap my stripped down hpa version, but miracles will need to happen in quality v my much simpler, and less finicky F & D.

In the end, we experiment to find what does/doesn't work for us. I would say without a doubt the stroll down hpa lane has made me a more knowledgeable grower

Very true, we all get into this for more reasons than just growing, it's a love of experimenting and searching for the best way to do something. I know you have learned alot, and we have also learned alot from your posts as well, thanks for that.

I'm sure Bob didn't mean to offend you, let just move on and remember there are so few of us we can't afford to not get along.

Funny thing is, I thought you were calling him on (BS) but realized you were addressing his name- lol good chuckle over that one...

Originally Posted by dickkhead

This is so true my system that I bought didn't perform until I had added all of those variables and my chamber was still to small but I managed to get through my first grow!! one thing about chamber do you guys think it's best to have an insulated chamber? And sealed off tight? I'm using led lighting so temps are 75-85 deg

Having the chamber sealed is a good thing, no light should get in, and I noticed air coming in generally dried things out and threw them out of balance, but perhaps in a smaller chamber this is a good variable to help things dry out? Chamber temps are better around 65-70 and under 75f, but you're not too far off the mark. Perhaps just chilling your jg coils with some ice water could be an experiment to try and see what that brings your temps down to. Maybe some reflectix on top of the chambers will be enough to reflect the light's heat away, and the mist itself will pulldown the temps into a good range.

TB: Thanks for your thoughtful insight.

At the end of the day it's all about what works for the individual. Here, where this time of year RH inside the pod gets high, a bit of unsealed pod can be a good thing.

My 'quick & dirty' method is to lay down a layer or 2 of HD Aluminum foil to block any light coming in from above. I have lots of 5/8" holes around the sides from experimenting with mist head positioning, but they do not seem to let enough light in to be a problem. (EDIT: I decided to look carefully; too much light getring in the side holes, so I taped over them. Be interesting to see whether this had anything to do with roothairs.)

I also trim long runners from my roots without apparent set back

Now back to ME, I'm going to take a couple new pics.

The plants in hpa are not growing taller, but are filling in nicely.

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The F & D plants shot up several inches + the leaves are much bigger than Friday's photo. The big one (hand photo) is now >8" above the high walls + the top is ~ 14" diameter.

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HD/Lowes also carries foam backed 4 X 8 sheets with reflective material for < $25.

Now please, this conversation has nothing to do with MY journal

The F&D diy system is working great......The babies are reaching up for that BB(good to see it back in working order)..........Good luck with your HPA setup pet....

Originally Posted by PetFlora

HD/Lowes also carries foam backed 4 X 8 sheets with reflective material for < $25.

Now please, this conversation has nothing to do with MY journal

Sorry 'bout that, just figured with all the updates about your grows on my thread that I was cashing in on some credit- lol... Then again, you're just getting this thing started here and my thread has turned into a catchall for all the random HPA news.

Definitely those plants are looking great pet- this is good stuff for you. Can't really get any healthier looking than that!