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Very healthy and green pf... Seems you have your veg nutes dialed in perfectly.
Internodal signature? Have you placed the energy stone in the new setup?
That was my first attempt at aero. Sucked big time. Even running hpa in a cloner on a timer with minimum of 20 second on produced typical dwc roots.Originally Posted by Atomizer
LP aero should be a lot slower than HPA, unless you overmist in a big way
All I am saying about the high walls is that it should also enhance true hpa or AA
Been dialing back the pause in 5 second intervals. I am finally getting root hairs at ~ 1/1:50. Doh, should have realized that warmer weather requires shortening the wet intervals. Just reduced again to 1/1:45
Pics hpa
The pic on the left is the bushiest male I've seen, though balls haven't developed yet, it has the internodal signature
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Pics F & D
Note how much bigger F & D primary leafs are, as well as how high they have grown above the tote lip.
Happily both are female. Also both are reaching up to the lights
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Very healthy and green pf... Seems you have your veg nutes dialed in perfectly.
Internodal signature? Have you placed the energy stone in the new setup?
My attempt at building a homebrew ATOMIX Air Atomized Aeroponic System
I shoot for 420 max in veg. Fitting, don't you think?Very healthy and green pf... Seems you have your veg nutes dialed in perfectly.
Internodal signature? Have you placed the energy stone in the new setup?
Yes, in the rez, in the pod plus a large Amethyst arrow head shape crystal between the plants on top. Shit I need to put one in the F & D rez. Thanks!
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Hey meant to ask, what is the "Tape" part in the title referring to?
Figure of speech regarding measurement. Thought it would capture the attention of people seeing it in New Posts
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ok, it is kinda catchy
I'd frankly love to see who besides you and TF can outproduce a properly done LP aero setup - I see guys worried about their root hairs when the roots (and the plant) are telling them that they're doing something wrong...............yes, both done ideally HP is gonna be faster (although how much more is anyone's guess, I'd throw a 5-8% number out there pulled from my ass), but the number of people I've seen do HP ideally I can count on one hand..............I was there for about a month or two, for what that's worthLP aero should be a lot slower than HPA, unless you overmist in a big way
Frankly, I see LP aero roots look a lot healthier than Pet's (no offense, Pet) in any journal from a grower who knows what he/she is doing in LP aero.
It's really strange to me, all the info is out there, to be able to do what A and tf do, but it seems everyone tries to put their own spin on it, or make it better before they even get it to work how it is proven to work, or perhaps cut a corner here or there. The problem is the info really has to be followed to a T in my book. Only then once you have gotten the results can you decide how to change things up or experiment. I guess a major part of it is that the methods and mindset for HPA practically go against everyting your mom ever told you about LP aero (if she was that cool- lol). So I think people that have never ran aero or hydro before likely have a better chance at going HPA successfully- although they're the least likely to subscribe to it.I'd frankly love to see who besides you and TF can outproduce a properly done LP aero setup - I see guys worried about their root hairs when the roots (and the plant) are telling them that they're doing something wrong...............yes, both done ideally HP is gonna be faster (although how much more is anyone's guess, I'd throw a 5-8% number out there pulled from my ass), but the number of people I've seen do HP ideally I can count on one hand..............I was there for about a month or two, for what that's worth
Frankly, I see LP aero roots look a lot healthier than Pet's (no offense, Pet) in any journal from a grower who knows what he/she is doing in LP aero.
It's painfully clear to me that you can't get HPA to work without an accumulator, or without a large enough chamber- or without the right nozzles, or without the right timer capable of the fractions of a second increments and short runs of JG line from the solenoids to the misters. For some reason everyone comes into this thinking they can get by without one or two of these things, and they end up with the world's most expensive and complicated sprinkler setup. I wouldn't be surprised if old fashined soil wouldn't outperform some of the frankenstein HPA system attempts out there I've seen.
Here's my logic for not complicating hpa with accums/solenoids, etc. First there are so many variables to deal with, even in a controlled environment, so I being pragmatic by nature, intuited that if I can get 90% of the benefits using 50% of the hardware my results should be way ahead of any other method. I felt that way until I started my vastly simpler and reasonably priced F & D rig.
Bob Smith
First thanks for dropping in, but please MY journal is not about lp. I've done it, and seen it done many times. Never have I seen roots that compare to the pics I posted. You can start your own thread/journal to show what you can do. Anyone interssted will sub it.
Also, Atomizer, knowing full well hat I was/am using a stripped down version of hpa, has been extremely helpful over the last couple years. So if you have any negativity regarding him, please do it in a PM, NOT IN MY JOURNAL. Thank You
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Understood- it started out as a good logic, but it seems it's a harder nut to crack than that. Apparently you have to have it nearly 100% correct in order to achieve the light misting necessary to obtain any of the benefits at all. There are a lot of variables, but I think in a weird way you ended up having even more by not having an accumulator. You had to be seriously on your game and every turn of the corner and temperature change brought you issues. One good thing is that you'll be able to breeze through any other style as surely none will be so complex as your brand of HPA.
I guess the cool thing is you always got enough for your private reserve- so you have some room to play around with your hobby and every ounce yielded isn't mission critical to you like some other people around here.
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