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Cheese #1 - Pure Exodus Genetics - Kaliman Seeds - Test/Seed Grow
The story behind these seeds are straight from the breeder rockster who tells how he came up with these seeds.
Rockster lives in U.K. and has an original Cheese #1 Exodus Cut of the original Skunk genetics Arjan brought over.
After many years of cloning from Mothers with nothing odd occuring all of a sudden he ends up with TWO males from a batch of clones.
He doesn't know why or how - just that he is sure they were cut from his Exodus Mother.
Apparently this is not unheard of; but is very rare none the less.
My hypothesis is that certain conditions have to align to gether to make it happen, and rockster just hit that sweet spot accidentally.
At any rate, rockster had the good sense to grow them out and choose one of the males and breed them with the females.
A side note: he said the other females from that batch of clones were normal and uniform.
These seeds are the result of his efforts, and are especially valued as this is a Breeders Pak of the new line.
And that is what I intend to do with them: breed.
Here is the unopened seedpak:
Seal cut and five of ten seeds selected:
Pots prepared for run;
I drilled five 7/16" diameter holes in bottom of each quart container,
filled them with medium, and then set seeds in pre-wetted depressions:
After covering plantings with loose medium and
adding a few ounces of water to try and saturate soil without disturbing seeds,
I then sprayed the upper surface of medium with aged pHed water to wet down
in order to trap moisture.
Normally I put on heated surface for a day or two after sowing seeds.
This setup is still pretty wet so I will wait until morning to place pots on heat source.
I am using fresh Pro-Mix BX for medium and will start and veg under 2X overdriven T-8's
Normally I veg 30 days before flipping for my tests.
Normally I repot two times:
a week to ten days for first transplant,
and just before placing in bloom room at 30 days.
I expect to go to 2 gal pots and then finish in 7 gal pots.
Okay it's two days and I set the pots on top of my 'heat source',
to do my thing like I do my thing:
After @5 hours I pulled them off and set them down below in the light.
The idea is to just warm the soil somewhat from the bottom upward.
You don't want to 'cook' it; you are trying to simulate the ground warming in the Spring to trigger the grow reflex.
Or something like that.
I go by feel here and that's the best I can explain it.
It has worked great for me up to now; so we will see.
The plan going forward here is some seedlings in a day or two sprouting up.
Okay I am at day 3 since sowing seeds and I have ignition on three of the five so far.
I set the warmed pots about a foot or so from the veg light yesterday afternoon:
Today I have something to show for the effort:
#One, #Three, and #Four have sprouted.
#Two has also sprouted.
Just went down to check before lights out:
#5 has sprouted.
5 for 5 man.
Hope this is a good sign.
Last edited by FatMarty; 04-27-2012 at 04:23 PM.
Okay all 5 are coming up normal, and I have moved them closer to the light.
I'm now about 4 or 5 inches below 2x overdriven T-8's (same as T-5 HO lumen output).
But I am going to have to make arrangements to give them light while the plants behind them sleep.
So for a week or two I am going to have to shuttle them in and out of the good light just to keep the light cycles proper.
I want to point out that I have not watered them again since sowing.
A lot of people drown seedlings at this point. Including me.
My friend finally got me to accept: Little plant = little water.
I'm not trying to come off as a know it all, I sure aint one;
I'm just trying to make this grow as simple to understand as possible for a newbie to follow along.
I hope I don't screw this up because that would be embarrassing as hell man.
But whatever happens I will share the journey with you if you care to tag along.
12 Days veg getting ready to transplant
I'm back with a couple pics and to report that all is going well with this test to date.
I'm getting ready to transplant the seedlings now and wanted to get this journal up to date.
At 5 days veg:
I can pretty much see a definate runt and a maybe runt so far.
I did note that the first to pop through the medium is the runt for what it's worth.
10 days veg:
Starting to look like plants even though they just got back the veg light to themselves.
Up to yesterday they were sharing space with three others in bloom for some seeds I'm making.
I was taking them out of that room at night and giving them longer light with a lower watt setup.
Just a quick note about the coffee container pots I made:
They work fine for starting the seed and drian perfect with the holes I drilled in them.
But now I have to cut the top parts of them off to get the seedlings out for transplanting without disturbing them too much.
I got a razor knife for the job; but I wish I would have thought of this first.
So far I've fed them water twice at around 5 days and 10 days.
Last edited by FatMarty; 05-09-2012 at 12:33 PM.
Transplanted to number 2 pots
Now that the Cheese #1 has the veg room to itself it is time to get down to business.
All 5 seedlings appear healthy even though one lags the others noticeably.
I used @ 2 quarts of mixed nutes Bonide Root-n-Grow at half-strength for each plant for the transplant.
I just peeked in this morning and they all look real happy so all went well.
Here are pics of each plant 12 days after sprouting and 15 days after sowing the seeds:
I heard and read that this strain is sensitive to nutes.
So far so good. Fingers crossed.
16 days veg
All went well with the transplanting and the seedlings have responded well to to light nutes.
Today I decided to try and even out the 'canopy' with a couple bricks, etc.
16 days veg:
Next feeding I will give them some way-back-machine Rap-id Gro "Grow" formula.
I want to get some micronutrients in the soil, and it's high in nitrogen.
24 days Veg - Ready to transplant 2nd time
Everything is looking great and I have high hopes for these.
I started out a bit leery because of the nute sensitivity issue; but so far I don't see it.
Hit them with the Rap-id Gro 'grow' formula @ 20 days and they responded well.
Here's some shots from the top at 22 days:
I did a little foilar feed last night with grow nutes and will transplant to 5 gallon pots tonight.
ns and clean.. i love blue cheese.did big buddah once and it was amzing... i'm at day 22 veging mysef...sub .rdr.
Well I transplanted this morning into 5 gallon pots.
All went fine, and they are sleeping it off now.
Each plant had good root development showing when I pulled them.
It had been 13 days since the first transplant; so I'm real happy with that.
Here's a couple group shots before the transplants:
And one of the group in veg after transplant:
Left to Right; 3,1,2,4,5.
I decided to FIM them today seeing as I got to hold off for bloom a couple more weeks.
I have noticed a 'problem' possibly with this strain:
The fan leaves grow out over the lower growth and stunts them it appears.
That in itself is no big deal if during the stretch they get some room to move.
But I think that is the cause of this wierdness on Number 1:
That's the only part looking like that; but others are sporting a twisted leave or two.
This is the runt plant; so maybe it's just not meant to be.
I left it on there for now - see what happens I suppose.
So I topped each plant at the same point on stems and stuck in cloner for ride across town:
Friend just got card and loves the cheese; so these are in good hands while I sort out the seedlings.
We plugged it into his inverter in his van; so he has a rolling garden 'til he makes it home.
I put a little Root & Grow in the cloner this time thinking maybe they will stay greener on fan leaves during rooting.
As long as I don't have to listen to that thing for the next two weeks I'm a happy camper.
I love my cloner but the noise bugs me.
So anyway, as you can infer from the tops above, these plants are almost identical except for height and the one with the mutated branch.
I'm hopeful the FIM, (what is FIM? - FIM = "fuck I missed" It is a method of increasing production by topping to get a more even canopy),
will give the other branches adequate lighting now. Be easier to watch the mutant if nothing else.
Here is a group shot after FIM:
Numbers One through Five, Left to Right.
Close ups after FIM topping:
Hey all, it's been almost 2 weeks since I FIM-topped the plants and all is going well so far.
Here is a group shot of the girls out for a stroll:
They are all filling out sideways real nice, and main stems are about 7/16" thick.
The tallest one is almost 12 inches, smallest is about 9 inches.
I have not seen any pre-sex indicators yet; so that's a good sign.
I see some feeder roots getting air-trimmed at bottom of pots already; so they have been busy down below from the looks of things.
I hope these 5 gallon pots are big enough for the duration.
Number One is no longer the runt - Number Two now holds the title.
But Two had a wierd color last week before fed after these pics; so it was probably nute variance.
I shouldn't smoke and feed...
Here's the Lineup From Number One to Number Five:
These bad boys are hugging the dirt; so after pics I trimmed the lower region of each plant to keep it off soilless medium.
I got another week before I'm scheduled to flip these; so they got their last shot of Rap-id Gro "grow" formula.
Hope I didn't get it too hot.
I caught a clse whiff of one yesterday while trimming, and it sure does have that cheese stank to it.
Didn't want to go rubbing stems right now with all the other action on them yesterday.
I'm kind of a brute with stuff like that; but I will get to it soon.
Got the kids all home and back into the barn:
Light is 10 to 12 inches from plants.
I'm hoping to induce upward growth a bit for this last week in veg.
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