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    The hydro store recommended just doing the cal mag and once I have a new garden to convert to a new nutrient. They have house and garden a+b there though. Trying to determine what route I should go with.

    They are in day 31 of darkness now. Im sure once the lights flip ill become a bit more down :/..as I watered with 1/2 strength last night and im predicting more areas will be damaged.

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    Get the Cal-mag. Then change, possible to cause more problem by changing nutes. See no big deal. Do a ...rw
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    Quote Originally Posted by roofwayne:7557993
    Get the Cal-mag. Then change, possible to cause more problem by changing nutes. See no big deal. Do a ...rw
    Thats what I figured. I love coco I just have master it yet.

    Do you think the calmag will fix things? He mentioned 5ml per gallon, how do I measure that out?

    Thanks RW :3 Bong time.

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    It's is a hair over 3 tablespoons! Coco just need more than soil, I thought your nutes might not do it. I was using soil.I wrote a list this great grower uses; Canna pk 13/14,Coco a& b, hesi tnt complex and bloom, bio-bizz grow and bloom, espom salt and molasses. That is a lot of stuff, I wrote that so can see the kind of nutes they use with coco. Of course you don't have to have all that stuff. I need a after that..lol....rw
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    Quote Originally Posted by roofwayne:7558681
    It's is a hair over 3 tablespoons! Coco just need more than soil, I thought your nutes might not do it. I was using soil.I wrote a list this great grower uses; Canna pk 13/14,Coco a& b, hesi tnt complex and bloom, bio-bizz grow and bloom, espom salt and molasses. That is a lot of stuff, I wrote that so can see the kind of nutes they use with coco. Of course you have to have all that stuff. I need a after that..lol....rw
    Thanks a lot RW.

    So it's definitely calmag? And do you think tge calmag with my nutrients will do the trick? Along with the pH adjustment of course.

    Or is there anything else that I should get?

    Went in and took a peak. I can tell swelling is starting to happen..just hope I can cure them in time...

    Also, what should I do for feeding tonight? I have two solutions right now. One is 1/4 strength with proper ph, as well as a solution at 1/2 strength thats also adjusted ph. I dont want to make it worse.

    Thanks again RW :3
    -ocho2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocho2 View Post
    There is no more than 2% soil. Its like 98% coco. Simply added the bit of soil for a bit more medium in the bucket. Crazy how it vanishee then boom its back.

    The calmag I can get tomorrow. They'll live and be fine until then, right?

    God they are looking so damn beautiful, I couldn't imagine if I lost them.

    Thanks crazy.
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    id just check for the phases of the leaves, when theyre overwatered, they droop, when they're wicking out and need water soon, the leaves should perk up, but when they lack water and really need it, they will droop again. best to check your plants more than once a day, coco seems to wick out a lot faster too. the longer you put off feeding them the more itll progress, but after you feed cal/mag shit should be back to normal. its gonna take a few days for them to die though, usually takes about a week before you do any permanent damage with some deficiencies although you should diagnose and solve it as fast as you can so they can get back to swelling, hope all this blows over after you feed em some cal mag, you can just add a pinch of epsom salt to your water and some crushed up eggshells, thats how i fix most of my cal mag deficiencies but i recently bought technaflora's MagiCal, works pretty well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyhazey:7558803
    Quote Originally Posted by Ocho2 View Post
    There is no more than 2% soil. Its like 98% coco. Simply added the bit of soil for a bit more medium in the bucket. Crazy how it vanishee then boom its back.

    The calmag I can get tomorrow. They'll live and be fine until then, right?

    God they are looking so damn beautiful, I couldn't imagine if I lost them.

    Thanks crazy.
    -Ocho2
    id just check for the phases of the leaves, when theyre overwatered, they droop, when they're wicking out and need water soon, the leaves should perk up, but when they lack water and really need it, they will droop again. best to check your plants more than once a day, coco seems to wick out a lot faster too. the longer you put off feeding them the more itll progress, but after you feed cal/mag shit should be back to normal. its gonna take a few days for them to die though, usually takes about a week before you do any permanent damage with some deficiencies although you should diagnose and solve it as fast as you can so they can get back to swelling, hope all this blows over after you feed em some cal mag, you can just add a pinch of epsom salt to your water and some crushed up eggshells, thats how i fix most of my cal mag deficiencies but i recently bought technaflora's MagiCal, works pretty well.
    So it would be better to wait on the feeding? I am going at 10am to get the calmag.

    Thanks crazy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocho2 View Post
    So it would be better to wait on the feeding? I am going at 10am to get the calmag.

    Thanks crazy

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    its not a burn so feed just as much as you would, id say get that calmag as soon as possible so they can move on though.
    im on riu mostly during the outdoor season, so PM to get in contact, posts could take longer for a response but ill check in when i can.


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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyhazey:7558833
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    So it would be better to wait on the feeding? I am going at 10am to get the calmag.

    Thanks crazy

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    its not a burn so feed just as much as you would, id say get that calmag as soon as possible so they can move on though.
    Do you think the 5ml per gallon of calmag will be what I need from here until the end? Or do you have to lower the amount eventually?

    Ill feed them at the half strength. I am sure the ladies want their food even though not all of it's there.

    Thanks a lot crazy. It would seem that this entire time, even if my ph was off, it was the calmag issue. Because its all what happened before, and it continued. Maybe the pH adjustment helped some but it wasn't the complete problem.

    What another relief this is. Thanks crazy and all.

    -Ocho2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocho2 View Post
    Do you think the 5ml per gallon of calmag will be what I need from here until the end? Or do you have to lower the amount eventually?

    Ill feed them at the half strength. I am sure the ladies want their food even though not all of it's there.

    Thanks a lot crazy. It would seem that this entire time, even if my ph was off, it was the calmag issue. Because its all what happened before, and it continued. Maybe the pH adjustment helped some but it wasn't the complete problem.

    What another relief this is. Thanks crazy and all.

    -Ocho2
    depends what they suggest, some solutions are more diluted than others. it seems some of them had this cal/mag deficiency to a small degree, pH flux was the biggest one last time although. id only feed it every 2 or 3 waters, the leaves will tell you when you need to.
    im on riu mostly during the outdoor season, so PM to get in contact, posts could take longer for a response but ill check in when i can.


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