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    Nutrients and Soil and seed are the places to invest your money well. Many other things can be DIY, on a budget. For the months of work and the months of smoke, for me, I would do nothing that didn't make it worth my while. You will never be displeased with Fox Farm soils, A.N, and a good seed stock. Many will tell you otherwise, but the logic is sound. If its not done right, it's not worth doing. If you go cheap on soil, don't get pre-nutrient laden soil. Give them your nutrients and nothing else.

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    I tend to disagree with the seeds, yes premium genetics are great but bagseed's from a nice bag of smoke will produce good results. It all depends on who you are and what you are expecting.

    as far as soil goes. FFoF soil is extremely expensive as well as over rated, yes it is great soil. but you can get a soil that is just as rich if not richer in organic nutrition as FFoF for a fraction of the price. which is really important when your planting in 5/10 gal pots or using alot of soil, if a bag of FFOF can last you a few grows i say go for it but if your going to be looking at buying multiple bags @ 20$ a bag each grow i say look into building your own soil. I do agree to stay away from an pre nutrient laden soils they are just a hassle but you can go with a good quality pro mix that cost the same for 4 cu yards as a 1 cu yard bag of FFOF soil goes for, then pick up a few ammendments and you get 4 cu yards of good quality soil for the cost of 2 cu yards of FFoF soil.

    to me growing is all about saving money on buying it so to save money where you can is important aspect of this hobby. if you can afford good quality genetics then i say go for it but if a 60-100$ seed order is not in your budget one can get desirable results from a few bagseed from some decent quality bud.

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    I never get seeds in my bags. So I used two of my buddie's and bought 4. lol





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    Have you consulted the plant problems forum? I'd be leery of giving advice myself but it looks like your girls have nute burn. What is your watering and feeding schedule like? How many days do you allow between watering/feedings? What What is the temperature of the room (Not simply the soil)? Don't take my word, because I haven't seen this much, but if they were mine: I would flush them all with plain water. Then, I would start them at 1/4 strength of the nutrients suggested strength. I water well and allow the soil to dry out slightly before watering again. The leaves are a great indicator but it takes experience to read them correctly. What nutrients are you using?
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    0 nutrients have been given. Usually- Leading me to believe a water issue. The only other thing I can think of is 24/0 lighting + ffof is an issue for some strains. Majority of water was out of a brita, then switched to tap. I was allowing 3-4 inches of soil to dry completely before watering. Going to feed 1/4 recommended strength of my BPN during the next water, and hope to see rapid improvement...

    I have to admit, I'm a little sad at the results so far. I hope they improve...

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    Strange. The Fox Farm and the lighting wouldn't be the issue. I always do an 18/6 in veg because it turns 1800watts off for an extra 6 hours which saves money. The veg growth doesn't seem to be affected by this. Sounds like you're feeding correctly and have good soil. What is stranger is that each plant seems to have a unique set of problems. Try porting some pictures of your girls in the Plant Problems Forum. Perhaps you would get better and more advice from there that could help. Wish I could help more but nothing your doing sounds amiss. What kind of nutrients do you plan to use?

    It seems those pots would get plenty of drainage, right?

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    FFoF soil is known to be somewhat "hot" for younger plants, from the looks of it the problem is not getting worse, so i would say that the FFoF soil burned them a week or so back and they are now coming out of it. the deformed leaves will never return back to normal so you want to look at new growth and if the issue is spreading rather than what has already happened.

    i personally believe that plants need some rest so go with a 18/6 for veg, they have a night time in nature so i feel its only natural to give them one indoors, alot of people dissagree and 24/0 has been proven to work with desirable results, so i cant say its bad but i feel 18/6 is a more natural and healthy lighting schedule.

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    I can't change the lighting now in fear of herms. But I am going to do 20/4 next time. I feel like that's the best of both world's.
    I looked up a bunch of deficiencies so I knew what I was working with. I think 1 is mag, 1 is cal, 1 is n, and 1 I couldn't decide on.

    Thanks for the reassurance theduder and retiredmatt. I agree the new growth looks pretty good. Tomorrow is water/1st feed day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonFSU View Post
    I can't change the lighting now in fear of herms. But I am going to do 20/4 next time. I feel like that's the best of both world's.
    I looked up a bunch of deficiencies so I knew what I was working with. I think 1 is mag, 1 is cal, 1 is n, and 1 I couldn't decide on.

    Thanks for the reassurance theduder and retiredmatt. I agree the new growth looks pretty good. Tomorrow is water/1st feed day.
    changing the lights wont make your plants hermie

    I wouldnt feed yet, you dont have a deficiency man not using FFOF soil. that soil should be able to take you through veg and partially into flower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonFSU View Post
    I never get seeds in my bags. So I used two of my buddie's and bought 4. lol




    ok first pic, the top left plant may be a N deficiency, also may just be the color of the strain.

    bottom left plant look healthy as can be

    top middle and right and bottom middle all look like they are burned.

    bottom right looks a little burned as well.

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