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    PetFlora brought me here, and I noticed that in one of the first posts, someone commented that it is mostly a bloom formula and the veg and bloom are the same. I was wondering about this as well, but I can say that, I'm not sure about the whole veg and bloom ratio theory. I've done it both ways and haven't noticed a difference. I am currently running House & Garden, and the veg and bloom base nutrient mix is 50/50 the entire way through; it does not change. On the other hand, GH instructs you to alter the ratios of grow and bloom from 3:1 in veg to 1:3 in flower. I didn't notice a difference except for perhaps a slight bit more stretch with the H&G, but it could be my imagination. H&G gave me more robustness overall. I am very anxious to try the V&B now!

    Cuebossa, is the yield comparable to other nutrient brands you have used? I just started a thread about how different nutrient brands might affect the strength of the aroma which is why PetFlora pointed me to your thread. I have noticed slight differences between brands. I really like your description of how powerful it made your buds smell as that is exactly what I'm looking for. There's nothing better than sticking your nose into a jar full of Kush and having that Diesel, pine sol scent smack you in the face!

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    I had to shoot Hydroponic Research an email about the pH. They were pretty surprised that my pH is was at 7 after mixing in their nutrients to my water. It's supposed to be like AN's pH perfect meaning it should automatically adjust to the correct pH, but they acknowledged it doesn't always work with well water or water that has a high alkalinity. They recommended I continue to check pH and adjust as needed.
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    Out with the old:

    Hermie has been removed from the clone closet, now outside. Upstairs in the main tent I have 2 plants in my hpa, and 2 in my 21st Century F & D: an older clone of the original mother and a F1 cross of said mother with Indica pollen. My original plan was to do an AB hpa v my F & D, but the genetic expression of the cross in F & D is > 85% Sat. She is > 3ft tall has 10+ side branches (all > 12") that currently make her > 2ft diameter, so comparing hpa v F & D using identical nutes is moot. What to do? Since she is crowding the finishing clone, yesterday I moved the clone to the closet and put Hermie outside. This opens the door for me to finish the F & D using V & B. Wish I had thought this through BEFORE dumping/adding fresh DM nutes Friday. Oh, well, looks like my avocado tree is going to get ferted.

    Here are pics of Mother clone & Sat dom in the F & D pod


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    Out with the old:

    Hermie has been removed from the clone closet, now outside.

    Upstairs in the main tent I have 2 plants in my hpa, and 2 in my 21st Century F & D: an older clone of the original mother that is ~ 2weks from done and a F1 cross of said mother with Indica pollen.

    My original plan was to do an AB hpa v my F & D using the same genetics. The 2 in hpa are expressing > 85% Indica, the cross in F & D is > 85% Sat. She is > 3ft tall has 10+ side branches (all > 12") that currently makes her > 2ft diameter, so comparing hpa v F & D using identical nutes is moot. What to do?

    Since she is crowding the finishing clone, yesterday I moved the clone to the closet and put Hermie outside. This opens the door for me to finish the F & D using V & B. Wish I had thought this through BEFORE dumping/adding fresh DM nutes Friday. Oh, well, looks like my avocado tree is going to get ferted.

    Here are pics of Mother clone (left) & Sat dom in the F & D pod. After taking this pic I replaced the elbow with a "T" to expand nute coverage over the lava rocks


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    Wow Petflora, Looks to be a very sophisticated operation you have yourself there.

    Here are some pics of the Romulan I grew in the ROots Aurora soilless mix with Veg+Bloom. I sampled this with a friend, an organic grower, who remarked that the flavor was better than any of the same strain he has grown 100% organic. The smell is pungent fruit with a heavy skunky background aroma. Very potent with expando effects. Stone was very heavy with sleep induction.

    I am planning on starting a PRO-MIX HP grow with the Veg+Bloom next.


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    ^^^^ You're getting me all excited.

    In just 3 days being fed ~ 640 ppms V & B the pistil clusters have exploded to medium marble size all over the plant. Today I mixed a fresh batch of V & B to ~ 800ppms (up from 640) also upped the flood time from 1 flood/60 minutes to 1/30 minutes during 10 hours of lights on

    I will be posting new pics in my journal Friday. If I remember, I will also post here.

    My 21st Century F & D is far from sophisticated, but rockin it!

    It consists of an oxygenated outboard rez, low pressure pump and some pvc tubing/fittings. Bulkhead fitting in bottom corner of large Rubbermaid tote/tray drains nutes back into the rez. The pump is on a simple analog timer with separate knobs to set on time and pause time. Minimum on is ~ 23 seconds so I sized the rez accordingly, to keep pump from running dry.

    This lp pump will suck 3g in ~ 20 seconds, so there is a bit of slurping.

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    The calyxes on the clone, using V & B for like 5 days, have finally started fattening up + a lot more pistils. So it appears I am 2 for 2.

    Mixing V & B

    It dissolves quickly in RO water < 10ppms, but, I have noticed a very small amount of precip, no big deal, just lettin people know
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    Quote Originally Posted by PetFlora View Post
    ^^^^ You're getting me all excited.

    In just 3 days being fed ~ 640 ppms V & B the pistil clusters have exploded to medium marble size all over the plant. Today I mixed a fresh batch of V & B to ~ 800ppms (up from 640) also upped the flood time from 1 flood/60 minutes to 1/30 minutes during 10 hours of lights on

    I will be posting new pics in my journal Friday. If I remember, I will also post here.

    My 21st Century F & D is far from sophisticated, but rockin it!

    It consists of an oxygenated outboard rez, low pressure pump and some pvc tubing/fittings. Bulkhead fitting in bottom corner of large Rubbermaid tote/tray drains nutes back into the rez. The pump is on a simple analog timer with separate knobs to set on time and pause time. Minimum on is ~ 23 seconds so I sized the rez accordingly, to keep pump from running dry.

    This lp pump will suck 3g in ~ 20 seconds, so there is a bit of slurping.

    DownstairsClone

    The calyxes on the clone, using V & B for like 5 days, have finally started fattening up + a lot more pistils. So it appears I am 2 for 2.

    Mixing V & B

    It dissolves quickly in RO water < 10ppms, but, I have noticed a very small amount of precip, no big deal, just lettin people know
    in most probability it is either cal and sulphur forming gypsum or even more likely the silica reacting to the drop in pH while still too concentrated...try filling the container with ro then while stirring add a lil at a time it may eliminate this...keep 'em green
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    Funny as I have not seen any precipitation. I agree with Kitehigh, you will need to add the powder slowly to your final volume of water and use a pump or stirring stick to agitate the water.

    I am preparing to start my PROMIX-HP test with Veg+Bloom today and am excited to see things get going. I'll be running a Subcool hybrid, Jack the ripper and an old school selection of OG.
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    Cuebossa bring ProMix HP in and start run !! im interesting to see the result with Pro Mix HP. Nice job , sir with buds !

    Happy growing and peace

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    I am using RO water (< 20ppm) I slowly add 1 tsp ( a little at a time) while hand stirring with a slotted paint mixer. Again, no biggie

    I posted new pics today in my journal.

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