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    I am pretty sure the dual you can run both at the same time. For a bigger setup it would be nice to have, or even if you wanted to do that in the future. I think you can also run MH in one and HPS in the other. I just bought a lumatek 600 W (single) with a digilux bulb. I am satisfied for the moment but I have been using it for about 2 weeks. I was using an 8 bulb t5 to flower. So this is a huge step up. The heat is an issue but I have a wing reflector and will be upgrading to a hood at some point soon.

    I think you said you were having issues with height right? I would really take that into consideration because the hps will need to be much higher than your LED's and such.
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    UPPPPGRAAAAADE!!!

    So I couldn't resist the siren call of getting a legit light in there. I love the flouros and the UFO but I didn't want to get to harvest and be like... what if? For some reason I hate airy buds and love nice hard nugs, and figured, if I can just throw money at this and make it go away... might as well, right? So I went down to the local 'dro store and picked this thing up. :



    Its just a standard Hydrofarm 400w HPS. They had one going at the store and it wasn't very loud, or hot, which were my two biggest concerns about getting an HPS. I wasn't a very good shopper and didn't do a comparison of brands and reviews or saw what you guys thought.. I just bought it. They were out of HPS bulbs so I'll get that friday, right now its just MHing it up.

    I was thinking I could put it in there with the UFO but there wasn't room... here is the cab with everything in there:




    And with the HPS:





    While taking the flouros and the UFO out I took these pics... the purple is so bright the camera got totally burned out.. hence the white spots. Amazing how different the plants look under that light!!





    And finally... my little helper:




    Silver: Ya I don't have basically any more vertical space to work with; I let these girls veg for a couple weeks to long while I was trying to get my cabinet finished. Next time... 3 week veg I'm thinking. Or some of that crazy training where you make the plant go around the bucket.. Or something. I have no idea what I'm going to do if these plants keep getting taller. Oh well! All of this is just one big grand experiment... live and learn, right?

    Anyway, here's to harder buds!!!



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    id put them alll in there hahahahhaaha!!! j/k but seriously your gonna have some fat tops budd i think youll be very pleased wiht the 400 and its capabilities and now you can veg with the other LED. woo woo

    and in my experience/opinion, that 400 can be closer, nearly touching the tops.. so long as the temps are ok not really above 85
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    Quote Originally Posted by SFguy View Post
    id put them alll in there hahahahhaaha!!! j/k but seriously your gonna have some fat tops budd i think youll be very pleased wiht the 400 and its capabilities and now you can veg with the other LED. woo woo

    and in my experience/opinion, that 400 can be closer, nearly touching the tops.. so long as the temps are ok not really above 85
    I wish they could all fit! Actually, I have a bigger tent, I bought it first by mistake, it is 6'7" tall and 4' wide if I recall... needless to say I have nowhere to put it except in a shed or my garage. Which may happen at some point, but for now I wanted my nice little comfy garden in my socks and boxers bedroom cab ^_^ But once I get the big tent going, I'm gonna cram all sorts of lights in there.

    Strangely, the light didn't come with a glass panel to close out the hood. You have to buy one online. Thats what I get for instant gratification I guess! Anyway, I want to make sure the plants dont get burned by the bulb but once the glass gets here I'll lower the light a bit. I haven't had a thermometer in there since the tent flooded and killed my last one, but I have another one on order so I'll know what my temps are like in a few days. I am venting in cold air (47 degrees right now) from outside so if anything its been cold in there.

    In August it will be a much diff. story.

    So stoked to hear you think I'm gonna have some big tops.. I am anxious to start seeing some (bud) growth!
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    our mothers have grown into the 400 before (the hood, not hitting the bulb yet) w/out burnin. itll go closer w/out the glass ours isnt even air cooled..
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    what is the temp that you shoot for at the highest leaf level (closest to the light) I have heard that 80 degrees is about the max...I am right in that regard. If so I can't get my light much closer than 18" and that is when it is really cool or its dimmed down to 300w..
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    which nute is doing the best at this point?
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    my canopy is sittin at like82-85 right now =) its cool
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    Checked the plants last night and allready had some heat dmg on some of the leaves. Added a little Vornado fan shooting air across the canopy but still pretty hot right underneath the bulb, we'll see how they look tonight. I dont have a thermometer in there right now but I am guessing it is hitting around 90, prettty damn hot! I kicked up the intake fan (6" fan on voltage regulator turned down for sound... so much for quiet!)so hopefully that helps some.

    Definitely gonna have to get creative with heat dissipation come summer!

    Silver: So far I am still a huge fan of the dutch master... The DM plant's main stem is at least 1" across at the base... its a tree!

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