400W organic soil stealth cab - TGA Apollo-13, Mr. Nice Medicine Man, OG Kush

Glad to hear they're better. Good vibes for the ogk

All the plants except OGK showing signs of healthy growth. MM#2 really taking off today and trying to catch up to a13#1 and mm#1. a13#2 still lagging behind but has perked up. OGK doesn't really seem to show any improvement today. I think she is dieing and too small to recover and I think I'm just going to pop a bean or two in to germ tonight to replace her. Now the debate begins on what.

I'm thinking either a) 1 more a13 & 1 more MM to increase my chances of having a female of each variety and potentially more than one to choose from b) pop the other OGK bean (gone but not forgotten), c) pop a couple G13xHashplant, d) pop a couple of Serious White Russians.

Hard call there. Since you already have two strains going you might have mystery seeds if you let them go to seed.

Guess it depends on priorities on which strain is most important to you

I'm not really worried about seeds (at least yet -- other than keeping them out).

I did a minor surgery on the OGK. I figured since the rest are recovering and she isn't there's probably something really funky with the soil she's in so I took her out of the soil and rinsed the roots with ph adjusted water with superthrive in it. I then put it in fresh soil (just light warrior, none of the old stuff now) and watered thoroughly with more water with superthrive. We'll see what happens. At this point I've pretty much written that one off since she's so sick.

Just decided what to do and already took the plunge so I can't change my mind I went ahead and put in the all 3 of my Serious White Russian, all 3 Mr. Nice G13xHashplant, my last OG Kush, my last 2 medicine mans and 2 more Apollo 13s -- I'll have 6 more apollo beans to sprout after this in case I don't find a keeper or I want to get a male to do some seed making for a cross. I decided what I am going to do is build a clone/seedling/mom chamber at the end of veg and take clones of all the plants after they've been sexed. Then I will pick the most vigorous female available of each strain and flower it -- may not have room for all strains this round we'll see. I am wanting to find an apollo keeper, so having 4 total should assure me of at least getting 1 female if not more than one to choose from (I averaged around 70-80% females on previous grows so 3 wouldn't be out of the question). Plus I want to work my way through these apollos so I have a justification to order some more TGA seeds -- already planning on getting TGA Cheese Quake & Ace of Spades (to start with) when I do my next seed buy. Who knows what else. I'm pretty sure between the 4 strains I'll be flowering out at least one of them is going to knock my dick in the dirt. Let's take bets, shall we?

I got a couple of gallons of casting tea brewing still... right now the ph is around 3.4 (?!?!?) after just over 24 hours... I think it's still in the fungal stage though once it gets to turning into bacteria soup it should go to 6.5... it started out in spring water that was around 6.3 with no adjusting (yea ozarka!!) -- once it gets to 6.5 it's feeding time for the girls.

So I checked 2 or 3 of the plants roots today by turning them upside down and popping them out. Of the ones I checked, only OGK had a long tap root. The plants that were doing best had a decent root system in the upper 2-3" of the cups. The roots had spread laterally but not down below about 2".

So wondering why the roots aren't stretching down.... it's the same soil below. The only difference is those plant success tabs (about 1-2" from bottom of cup)... I wonder if those are responsible for the high soil pH at the bottom? They said they were safe to use even at seed stage so not sure why they would be a problem. Or could it be the foxfarm light warrior being so airy? In an attempt to help adjust the soil further and get them to stretch, I did a bottom up watering with some 6.7 pH water w/ superthrive. I watered to about the level of where the roots were reaching to so that they should have a small portion get some water at the bottom but they'd need to stretch down to get the rest. Figure that should additionally continue to help the soil level back down to closer to 6.5 and away from 8... if the roots keep behaving this way and don't stretch down now that they're growing healthier I may repot them again in a few days and only use the soil around the root ball. Even the very healthiest apollo was developing a good root system but only to that level below the top -- that does not seem normal to me have not seen that before.

pop them all and let god sort them out

If they don't get dry the roots dont go down searching for water. I did that once. I'm assuming that's not your problem though. Can't help you as I haven't done soil or those tabs.

How long before you plan to order again? A couple months or sooner? I'm wanting to get the void and agent orange myself. I've got other stuff here to pop so I'm not in a hurry but still on my list. Just hate $25 shipping or whatever it's at now.

So are you building a new cab for mothers/clones or what?

Yeah I know the not searching for water is possible that's why I bottom up watered so only the areas of soil without a good developed root system has water in it Figure it will help fix the problem whichever it is. I will probably wait until this first round's harvest before I make another seed purchase I'm guessing. I won't even be able to flower all the females this round -- what kind of results I see will probably decide... if this batch is just awesome I may focus on working with what i've got for now... if i still feel like it's lacking I'm probably going to feel the urge to get more. They're all high quality genetics so there's the potential for every strain to have a keeper. white russian and medicine man are both supposed to be over 20% thc. apollo is 17-18% and i'm guessing OG Kush and g13xhp is somewhere in the range of those strains as well. Very interested in cheese quake for the 4% CBD though and high THC-A -- I may just have to order a single pack of that soon only because I doubt the genetics I have now are a similar profile.

As far as the new cab not sure I may do a craigs list retrofit again. I'd be tempted to do a big PC box but I don't think that would be enough space for all the females I'm going to have until I narrow down the pool. I'm thinking about maybe getting a fish tank and putting that on top - the sound would help cover up the sound the other grow equipment makes and it'd make for something pretty to look at in addition to my plants when I'm in my mancave

If the mom chamber is big enough to keep the moms and clones/seedlings in through early stage then I can cut down my veg time even further and get more harvests in, especially once I start going from clone...

Can't wait to see the pretty girls in there under the HPS and a blackstar LED light flowering their asses off.

Yeah I've been doing all my watering as bottom feeding. The water doesn't get sucked all the way up to the top in the 2 liter bottles when in 4 inches of water.

FYI your link says Apollo 18.

Definitely sounds like an interesting profile on the cheese quake. I forget it's lineage. I've got a cheese cross here but no idea on profiles. What's thc-a suppossed to do?

Yeah but an aquarium is just that much more work you got to do.

Two weeks in. It's been quite the journey already a lot going on in the personal life as well. All the plants are improving now. Even OG Kush has decided that after my transplant it has decided to live. New green growth and more regreening, although the old growth is mostly toast. Of course now she's going to have a sibling to contend with. This OGK has a strike against her in the hardiness category.

It looks to me like there is a little heat stress still. Getting drier faster than it should and see the symptoms in the leaves. Cab is getting a little hot when the doors are shut and the room is shut, but not too hot.

A13 #2 is looking a lot better but not improving as fast as the others... if it does not make some more marked improvements/new deeper green growth before the tea is ready i may do a similar transplant as I did with the OGK, which is now showing better new growth at the shoots than the a13 #2 has. A13 #1, MM #1 & MM #2 all looking solid.

MM #1 and #2
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A13 #1 & #2
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OG Kush
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New seeds germin in the cab - most have taps breaking through should be ready to put in ground in the morning
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